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Old 28th Apr 2010, 15:29
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‘We’re all human,’ he repeated, ’sometimes we do say things we don’t believe….’
I believe that the remarks Brown made at the time showed him in his true colours.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 15:38
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The Times:

.......And later, in an interview with Lord Mandelson, Sky’s Kay Burley asked: “Do you think he’ll let us have our microphone back?”

To which the Business Secretary replied: “I should think he’ll let you have your microphone back, indeed he might even wish you’d kept it to yourself in the first place.”.....
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 16:55
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A SKY microphone was it? I wonder how that happened Mr.Murdoch.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 17:19
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A SKY microphone was it? I wonder how that happened Mr.Murdoch.
It happened by the PM and the party leader expressing his contempt for the electorate, who also happened to be a labour supporter.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 17:33
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Peter Mandelson did a pretty gracious job, in the circumstances, of explaining away to Kay Burley on Sky News his master’s latest blunder.
I don't think anyone's Mandelson's master, apart from *** ****** ******. I need some mindbleach after that.

Before me, I have Viz, 195, which arrived on Monday. In it, a politician refers to voters as 'you senile old [email protected]' and uses other language I dare not use in a family forum. Private Eye, bought yesterday, includes a column ostensibly from Gordon Von Brownstain, relating the following exchange with the CEO of BA:
"Why are your planes all useless grounded when they should be flying our honest, hard-working Comrades to and from their holiday destinations?"
"Because you told us we weren't allowed to fly"
What a pathetic attempt to shift responsibility from his own shoulders!


I wish that they would print the Lottery numbers - they seem to be good at predicting the future.

This blundering, vindictive poltroon has now given Mr Cameron the opportunity to kick the chair away and see Brown twitch. Not for him the gentleman's way out with a revolver in the study; nor that of a nobleman and the axe. He's on the gallows and the prayers have been said.

If this sounds harsh, you might like to reflect upon what his own party wishes upon him. The knife sharpeners will be busy tonight!

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Old 28th Apr 2010, 17:37
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I have decided where to place my vote.

I suppose the fact that I was uncertain whether to vote with the local majority or support the only viable alternative was, in itself, decisive.

The other aspects were a parachuted-in candidate (our MP decided to retire whilst he was ahead in the expenses game) or a local family man currently involved in academia having previously worked in the NHS. School governor.

No contest really when you examine the relative attributes.

I won't be alarmed if my vote isn't decisive - there's a limit as to how much water you can push uphill with a fork.

That's the local situation - the national situation is still too confusing to decide on who to support (IMO).

Again I don't expect that my single vote will be decisive in that respect either.

GB certainly seems to have made a bollox of things today . . .
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 17:49
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The moment.

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Old 28th Apr 2010, 19:59
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A SKY microphone was it? I wonder how that happened Mr.Murdoch.
Even Gordon Brown's personal sycophant Kevin Maguire of the Daily Mirror has acknowledged that there's no conspiracy theory. I don't think Murdoch forced Brown to put the mike on.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 20:09
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“For those of us that have known Gordon Brown for many years, what we have just seen is no huge surprise I have to say.”
This is a quote today from Nick Robinson, political correspondent at the BBC.

Well Nick, why didn't you share this little secret with the BBC licence payers? You know, the ones who were paying you to be impartial, objective and informative ?

It was long suspected that you were just another BBC/Labour lickspittle. Two theories confirmed in one day, I will need to go and have a lie down.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 20:36
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That moment

Almost as good as watching Thatcher leave Downing Street in tears
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 20:39
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I'm not really sure why this is even the slightest bit newsworthy.

It's a shame the mindless masses buy into this 'ooh now he's showing his true colours' rubbish - if any of you on here can tell me that you havn't turned to a mate in the pub after someone causes some trouble etc and called them a name then you're a liar. No exceptions.

If people base their voting habits on this then they should have their power of vote removed.

I don't care if he hurls abuse at every person he ever meets, believes that fairies live at the bottom of the garden, and wears a tutu to G20 summits, as long as they do what needs to be done for the country I don't care.

Do you think that after that young lad stuck two fingers up at David Cameron he sat at home saying to his wife 'lovely chap' or do you think he turned the air blue and called him a chavvy little $&*@.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 20:47
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He's not called 'Toenails' for nothing!

Having said that, it appears that the Tories have adopted this 'fight' meme, first put about by Our Great Leader.

This is a load of spherical objects. Until they convince the dimwitted wives of Tory voters who'll go for a pretty face (and let's face it, Blair was more pulchritudinous than JM, IDS and MH) over how many furrows their husbands will gather over the next few years, and to go in hard and say that enough is enough, that's it. If you think that I am being sexist, ask yourself why so many women are being parachuted into foreign electorates to - er - sex things up.

We need electoral reform. It is apparent that the people piping up her saying 'hey, I don't count' have a reasonable grievance. They are right. Voting should be a privilege, not an automatic right. Far too many people have a say in the governance in this country when their only interest is taking money from other people.

It is essential that we deny the vote to people who are net beneficiaries of the State, because they are not stakeholders. By virtue of the fact that they have not contributed, to what extent may we call upon their wise judgement to govern a complex state of affairs? The Labour government was more than happy to dismiss 650 years of tradition with the HoL, under whose counsel we seem to have done rather well, to summarily stack it with its little friends, carefully crafted to corrupt the Upper House and pollute our political system.

And all this - because 'he has a nice smile'. Hrmmph.

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edited to say:

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Old 28th Apr 2010, 20:49
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Originally Posted by rusty sparrow View Post
Almost as good as watching Thatcher leave Downing Street in tears
Or this...

YouTube - Neil Kinnock gets his bum wet
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 21:34
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Browns gaffe couldn't be worse.

He's shown himself as two-faced, nice one minute, slagging her off behind her back next.

He rounded on an old lady who was speaking common sense about an issue that concerns us all... only for him to slag her off for disagreeing. [she actually said, paraphrased: "You can't even bring immigration up without the risk of being called racist for it"... and Brown proved her right!]

She was a a labour supporter and ended their meeting on a positive note!!!

The public appology, where he altered the days schedule for this, shows him weak and playing to the gallery.

The actual 'to camera' bit after the public appology, where he was all false smiles, showed him as the false twXt he is.

It was just an epic fail in so many areas and on so many levels. We all now know what he thinks about us all.

Watching the Vine interview, I've never before seen a man crumble beffore my eyes. LOL
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 21:43
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I'm a gentleman where ladies are concerned - but Thatcher was no lady.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 21:45
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Dunno what she was moaning about, there were only 30,000 Eastern Europeans ever gonna come here.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 21:47
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I'm not really sure why this is even the slightest bit newsworthy.
In the same way that the allegations of bullying were newsworthy. Because the charachter of the person who leads the country and their behaviour towards others counts for something.

He referred to an ordinary voter, a lady who in many ways should form part of Labour's core constituency, but who had concerns about immigration, as a bigot. That speaks volumes - about his irritability when he is challenged, his dismissive attitude towards the justifiable concerns of the voters, his lack of tolerance to differing views, and his duplicitous on camera / off camera behaviour.

The electorate deserve to hear about these gaffes because they may offer us an insight into the person concerned that would be hidden in a stage managed tightly scripted public appearance.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 22:02
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 22:09
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I'd like to see more Labour politicians adopting the John Prescott method of dealing with people who don't agree with them - should reduce Labour's popularity by another 5 to 10%!
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 22:13
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They may offer an insight into the man, but the hypocrisy is that it's an every day occurence for pretty much all of us.
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