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Old 10th Jun 2009, 19:23
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UK trade group slams Plane Stupid 'stunt'

The British Business and General Aviation Association has hit back at the actions of environmental activists at London City airport. In the early hours of Wednesday 10 June protestors attempted to disrupt private jet flights by chaining themselves to a business jet.
Campaigners from the protest group Plane Stupid donned pinstripe suits and bowler hats before attaching themselves to the wheel of a Hawker 400A light business jet at the airport in the heart of the UK's capital. The group says the protest was against the "selfishness of private jet use".
Guy Lachlan, chief executive of the British Business and General Aviation Association, which represents the interests of the UK's business and general aviation community, says: "We strongly condemn the misguided disruption by a small number of individuals this morning. Such ignorant stunts harm rather than progress meaningful discussion."

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He adds: "Aviation in total contributes about 2% of global emissions. Business aviation is responsible for less than 1% of that 2%. To put that into perspective, in the UK that is equivalent to each of us with a car driving just 12 miles [19km] in a year. I would ask the Plane Stupid people which they think would have a greater economic impact to the UK - each of us driving 12 miles less per year, or abolishing business aviation?"
Business aviation directly contributes 3.5 billion to the UK economy and employs 50,000 people across the manufacturing, maintenance and operation of business aircraft, the BBGA says.
"In a sustainable economy business aviation is far more environmentally efficient than other forms of transport in terms of value-added per unit of emissions. It is obtaining the highest possible ratio of economic benefit to quantified emissions that is key. Prudent use of business aviation, in combination with an infrastructure of other alternative travel modes, boosts the British and European economies, which should be encouraged rather than attacked."
The BBGA says it is "keen to establish a dialogue with Plane Stupid to address the serious issue of transport CO2 emissions, but like many other pressure groups seeking to make a point irrespective of the facts, they seem more interested in attention-seeking than engaging in meaningful discussion. Until we have this dialogue, their activities can only be regarded as a dangerous disruption of other people's legal and economically valuable activity".
London City airport says the protesters attempts to disrupt services were in vain as the 400A had already been grounded with a technical problem "and was not going anywhere".

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Old 10th Jun 2009, 21:33
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Is it not a bit of a worry that these clowns can apparently enter an airport at will in the UK?

Surely they should be treated with the same response as would be meted out to someone who was trying to plant a bomb on a plane... How come a group of spotters get banged up in Greece for taking photos, yet these guys get away with this?

I particularly enjoyed their excursion at Aberdeen airport to protest at the amount of helicopter traffic. Presumably they would rather that the majority of people in Aberdeen were unemployed as a result of the Oil Industry going elsewhere?

Idiots!
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 21:46
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Why on earth aren't these people arrested?!
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 22:14
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Originally Posted by The_Steed View Post
I particularly enjoyed their excursion at Aberdeen airport to protest at the amount of helicopter traffic. Presumably they would rather that the majority of people in Aberdeen were unemployed as a result of the Oil Industry going elsewhere?
They probably think that if we asked our friends the dolphins nicely they'd just let the workers hitch a lift on their backs to and from the rigs.
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 22:30
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Perhaps the best thing would be to close this thread down. The media to not give them the publicity they want.
Then arrest them, and throw the book at them. Idiots!
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 23:40
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Things must have really changed since I left the UK. Eight years ago idiots like these were being championed as heros and let go by the courts. All you that have replied have given me hope.
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 23:59
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Obviously their title really applies to them,- not their cause!...
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 00:22
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I am amazed at the inconsistencies of the way certain protesters are treated. In the recent past in Nottingham protesters who were allegedly going to take action at Ratcliffe on Soar power station were arrested before they even left the city based on information the police had that they were intending to commit criminal acts.

Yet these clowns are allowed to break into an airport and potentially put an a/c and it's occupants at risk (what if they had done damage to an a/c which caused a flight safety hazard?).

Apart from civil trespass, could they not be prosecuted for breaching certain aspects of the ANO?
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 00:25
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More importantly, easy to place anything on any airplane, or airplanes. What would happen if they tried that at LON?
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 00:32
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So much for security what a joke . Good thing I can only have 100 ml tooth paste no one noticed I do have 70 tonne of Jet A1
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 00:49
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An amazing security lapse at an international airport however - A similar incursion happened recently when the west midlands police helicopter was torched so perhaps similar lessons can be learned.

It will take a braver man than me to post a comparison to the incident in rotorheads - perhaps someone in the cliquey club can do so.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 01:02
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So much for security what a joke . Good thing I can only have 100 ml tooth paste
Well, if you would go about it the easy way and just cut a hole in the fence as shown in the picture on the first post, you wouldn't have to worry about how much toothpaste you're carrying.

An amazing security lapse
A lapse is a "a temporary deviation or fall especially from a higher to a lower state" (Merriam-Webster). I am willing to bet that there have been no such deviations and the airport security was performing at its usual standard.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 01:17
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LH2 you are so right . I always do it the hard way go through security but there still is that 70 tonne or so of Jet A1 they never notice
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 04:06
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Recently, at the airport where I keep my private aeroplane, someone tried to break into a hangar and steal the contents...which included a KingAir 350.
The aircraft owner caught the SOB, beat the cr*p out of him with a tire iron, called the police, and said perp is now residing in the maximum security lockup in the Maricopa County jail (Sheriff Joe Arpiao, in charge), awaiting trial.
The US Attorney is now in charge of the case, the the guy faces a 20 year term in the Federal pen, if convicted.

A similar scenario should be used in the UK, for such malcontents as noted above....IE: beat the cr*p out of 'em then throw 'em in the clink.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 04:58
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It's interesting that they do not protest against the "selfishness of private car use", presumably because it might inconvenience them instead of others. Hypocrites!
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 05:32
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Angry

Charge them with an attempted terrorism offence, resulting in a worldwide travel ban. Then see if these middle class protesters change their tune when faced with holidaying in the UK for the rest of their lives.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 06:44
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Why on earth aren't these people arrested?!

Because this countries successive governments ponder to the do-gooders,so the poor luvvies must be wrapped in cotton wool till their human rights lawyers (paid for by the tax payer) can come and take them back to their tax payer paid accommodation (probably via the dole office to collect some free cash).

Now if the fence had 240 volts running through it.............
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 07:26
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Presumably MI5 are aware (Names, addresses, phone-taps) of these people, just as if they were engaged in terrorist activity. Then why-oh-why don't MI5 get pre-warning of thier trespassing activities and have Mr. Plod at the perimeter fence waiting for them. A half intelligent terrorist only has to join Plane Stupid and then do something really stupid.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 08:29
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According to a LCY spokesperson:-

"This is now a police matter and we expect there to be arrests for criminal damage and breaking and entering."

However:-

"Plane Stupid said it had a legal expert on hand to deal with any arrests."
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 08:32
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Lightbulb one solution, good for all:

they wanna strap to some plane's gear?
ok!
i suggest a 747 (or similar) ... then push TOGA.
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