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calling all REAL football fans - show your support for Kevin Keegan

Old 16th Sep 2008, 11:53
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I'm mystified by Newcastle fans reluctance to criticise the "Messiah" Kevin Keegan (one of Yorkshire's least favourite sons).

In his execution of his (well paid for) professional duties he's encountered a problem. A real problem I give you. I agree the structure at NUFC was wrong. KK is correct with his criticism.

But he's baled out yet again and run away. His CV speaks for itself - when the goings good he's brilliant and he "loves it". When it gets tough he prefers to bale out rather than tough through a difficult situation (which is what the rest of us have to do in the real world).

Great leaders earn their corn by toughing it out when the going is hard not by milking blinkered goodwill of loyal supporters who see the world through rose tinted spectacles.

Keegan out. Get a manager who has the balls to do the job and fight on all fronts and not run away.

The self pity it boring - and I'm a Leeds United fan.

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Old 16th Sep 2008, 12:23
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In a way i probably agree with you.

The main problem is with the information relayed through statements and the press. It took Newcastle United 2 days to release a statement saying anything regarding the Keegan situation - this could have all been sorted out within hours of it coming to light.

No one knows for sure if Keegans conditions were changed after the arrival of Wise & co - if they were then ashley and his mob are to blame, yet if Keegan knew that he wouldnt have full running of transfers when he came back, then thats Keegans fault for accepting the job in the first place.

Il be honest, when i heard Keegan was coming back, I was one of those who were sitting on the fence. I wasnt disappointed, neither was I jumpping for joy.
Then the team started performing (better), and started to show some spirit for the first time in about 3 years, so everyones happy.

To be fair and even more hypocritical, I dont care if Mr Ashley stays, providing a manager can be brought in that can do the job he is paid for, becasue all this activity is yet again making the club even more of a laughing stock.

Il be at West Ham on saturday to show my support for the team, all we need now is a manager!!!
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 16:27
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You are going around in circles.

You seem to be a fan of Newcastle but, as so many other fans, have a massive blind spot for reality.

You ignore the huge amount of good work that Ashley has done; you ignore the reality that it will take several years of realism if Newcastle are to move forward and you all seem to have some brain damage when it comes to Keegan - see your original post.

I used to go to all the home fixtures, Firsts and reserves. I travelled to a few away games when finances and time allowed. I stopped going years and years ago.

The facts:

Newcastle are NOT a BIG club; a large fan base , yes; a big club - no.

If Ashley had not bought the club, written off a large part of the accumulated debt amassed by the previous knuckle heads of Shephaerd and Hall (D) it is likely that the club would have imploded under their debt mountain.

Ashley has tried to put the club on a sustainable basis. It is interesting in his statement of putting the club on the market that he mentions Arsenal and Wenger as models to follow; not the Chelsea (and now Man City) way of spend whatever it takes. The man knows business and has made his money making good BUSINESS decisions. Sadly, the fans at Newcastle have shot one of the few guys who might have brought success in the long term.

As an aside, a neighbour had a drink with Ashley outside a pub near the Emirates last season. He asked about summer signings, KKs responsibility re players and what the future held. Ashley was candid in saying no major signings, KK had the say on player movement and that it would take 4-5 years to get where he wanted. All reasonable.

In the meantime fans think two successive wins means that they are 'back' and that KK could lead them to trophies. Not true. Never has been, never will be.

Newcastle NEED Ashley a lot more than KK.
If only the 'army' could see that and give the bloke a chance to make the changes.

Now what for the future?
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 20:11
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I couldnt give support for a guy who wholeheartedly stood by Joey Barton. He is nothing more than a thug and a bully who happens to have a skill. Keegan lost all my respect when he let that animal play for his team again.

I also think Keegan is a waffler, and although a lot of years experience as a footballer /manager he got through management on a wing and a prayer.

I think Mike Ashley made the right decision to get rid of him, and i think the Newcastle fans have gone way over the top on this.

You supporters need to be geeing your club on now whoever is boss, not have all this confrontation from pre match demo's. You wont do the club any good. Just look forward and dont bite the rich man who feeds your club, because as he's done, he's bitten back and the masses didnt win.
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 20:38
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There has been turmoil between managers, directors and chairman at that club for as long as I can remember. When I was a young lad, it was open warfare between the Seymours and the McKeags and different managers. Its carried on like that down the years. The board were signing players in the seventies without the manager being told, so Keegan's situation is nothing new. Compare the acrimony and turmoil at SJP with the relative tranquility at Old Trafford or the Emirates and you get a very different and succesful outcome. Newcastle need some peace in the boardroom then maybe everyone can concentrate on getting results on the pitch. Maybe Ashley is the right man to take to club forward, but he needs to let the manager have a say in who comes and who goes and he needs to give him time - Allardyce's sacking was just crass stupidity IMHO.

Like groundhand, I used to go to every match, but I gave up my season ticket because they didn't come to see me when I was bad.
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 08:58
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Managerless, hopeless and dumped out of the mickey mouse cup by us, the worst team in the premiership! What now for united??

You Magpies had better do something & quick. I can vouch for Terry Venerable, he sorted out the borough, so maybe he's the man for you - still part of the Cockney Mafia though!!
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Old 26th Sep 2008, 20:00
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Joe Kinnear???
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Old 27th Sep 2008, 20:22
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Magpies 1 -2 Blackburn

Joe Kinnear???
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Old 27th Sep 2008, 23:09
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I am sorry, I misread the announcement, I "thought" it said ROY Kinnear
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 05:51
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Ther's a Joke in here somewhere but I am not laughing.

Howay the lads.
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 10:47
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I have a cunning plan

Since the sponsors Northern Rock have been nationalised by the Labour Govt, shouldn't the Govt not now be running the Toon?

You could have Gordon Brown as Manager, Alistair Darling as Chairman & John Prescott as Coach.

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Old 29th Sep 2008, 08:27
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You couldn't make it up could you?

The Cockney Mafia appoint a temporary manager who says he might be here for a month. Then we are told that he is banned from the dug out for 2 matches.

What happened to CRB checks. Not wise, not wise.
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 11:15
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Cockney mafia? Ashley is from Bucks, Kinnear was born in Dublin and Wise, although a Londoner was born in Kensington where you can't even hear the sound of Bow bells in a 40k easterly wind on a very quiet day with no traffic in the entire city. Blimey me ol Chinas, don't drag us cokernees into this mess, time you changed that title - although home Counties/West London/Irish mafia is a bit long-winded
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 11:18
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Trust me, anyone from Gateshead is cock-er-nee to a proper Geordie.
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 14:12
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Personally I don't see what the fuss is about football.It is an industry like any other, designed to make as much money as possible for its owners and with total disrespect for its consumers.

I just can't be bothered and would be very happy if the whole circus just disappeared.
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 14:29
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I'd love it if Newcastle were to appoint Kevin Keegan as manager again. Och aye. Love it. As long as it's in time for our next game, as it'll make the dickin' we're gonna give 'em that bit more special. Love it, I would. The noo.
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 14:56
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Slight thread drift,although sticking with yonder cockernees:What is the general opinion re the Tevez affair? I must admit as a neutral I had a lot of sympathy for Sheffield United getting relegated and the consequent dodging and weaving of the eel eaters hasn't diminished my feeling that they pulled a stroke one bit.
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 20:05
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The Magpies have apparently had an email from someone in Nigeria who has access to considerable funds (a government or bank employee, knows of a large amount of unclaimed money or gold which he cannot access directly, usually because he has no right to it) offering to buy the club in return for a share of the released funds . . .
Apparently the return number begins with 419.
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Old 30th Sep 2008, 00:36
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Eff Man, spot on. If it had been the other way round and Sheff U had fielded some dodgy player you can almost guarantee they'd have had the book thrown at them. The Irons are an established Premiership team and the Premier League bosses (ie that plonker Richard Scudamore) bottled it and took the easy option of fines rather than points docked which meant WHU survived when they had been as crap as Sheff U all season.
As for Newcastle, I really hope they sort their act out. I have spent many a Saturday at that ground as an away fan and loved every minute of it, whether we have won, lost or drawn. The crack has been terrific and despite the supposed hatred of cockneys I have never ever encountered a problem with Geordie fans - in fact we have, in my experience in the pubs around the ground, always shared a distaste for those smug a***s from Surrey and the rest of the home counties who follow Man Utd, which is nowhere nearwhere they live. But that's another story. Good luck to the Toon, I wish you well
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BBC SPORT | Football | African | Nigerians confirm bid for Magpies
Price now said to have been reduced to 280 million . . .
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