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Disruption at LHR due to George W Bush

Old 14th Jun 2008, 13:50
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Efflent man,

If Her Maj went to the US, I doubt that she'd insist on going through an airport which had to effectively shut down, disrupting a lot of people's travel. Dubya, on the other hand, by his deliberate mean and selfish refusal to use a mil air base, is just getting his ego stroked by making sure everyone is aware that he's here.

So he's the rude, selfish bas^&*d
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 13:50
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Nope - the Air Traffic Controllers
No disrespect to ATC but they have nothing to do with me operating on schedule where I live, terrible.
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 16:00
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Dubya, on the other hand, by his deliberate mean and selfish refusal to use a mil air base
I really am curious how this myth has been born. I read the extract earlier in the thread. From where did the paper get its information?

Does the US really get to dictate to the UK how/when/where Air Force One will land?

Man, it has got to suck being in such a wimpy country that you don't get to control your own airspace and other heads of state can just waltz in when and where they please. Hell, even France doesn't allow that.

But, now I understand the origins of the 'lie back and think of England' saying while getting screwed.

Think about it. Does it seem at ALL plausible that GWB personally set the ground rules for this visit? No. 10, et al, had no say in the matter of timing, location, etc? That US and UK military and security forces didn't collaborate to the nth degree?

It's just easier to be stupid, I guess.
Old 14th Jun 2008, 18:40
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The thoughtless, inconsiderate half baked decision to let George Dubya snarl up the travel plans of thousands of passengers has to come from number 10. Not to mention the added cost of the delays which airlines will be landed with.
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 19:59
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snarl up the travel plans of thousands of passengers
Are you talking about Terminal 5, British Airways...or was it President Bush?
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 20:07
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Maybe George wants to see what it's like to "glide" into Heathrow ??
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 09:42
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Read a long time ago about a President (Carter, maybe) who decided that to get from somewhere to somewhere else he would use the roads, rather than using an expensive helicopter (plus cost of back-ups etc.).

He only did it the once since because the police had to close and guard every road junction on the way it ended up costing a lot more in manpower and disruption than a few helicopters would.
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 12:19
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George W. won't have had anything to do with the decision to land at LHR, that is a fact, it is what suits the big picture, be that political, security or what is most appropriate.

On VIP flights the crew are given a "Door Opening Time" which is the time they are expected to have arranged their arrival, in conjunction with ATC, so that they land and taxy and then open their door to coincide with the greeting party who may be lower order or HM Her Self. Quite difficult stuff, subject to wind, other traffic, length of taxy etc. No one should be kept waiting unreasonably, be they visitor or greeter.

Trying to rubbish G.W.B over this is just pathetic and Brits who like it should be ashamed of themselves.
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:25
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1 man brings LHR to a standstill

I've just got home from a day working on the ground at LHR and am still trying to comprehend how 1 man can be allowed to cause so much chaos and bring LHR to a standstill. I can not understand why George Bush is allowed to fly into Heathrow, meaning everything else just has to stop and wait. With Northolt so close why use Heathrow which is already full to the brim and can't cope with the traffic it already has. It has caused 1 - 2 hour delays on departures already delayed due to; I was told 30 mins holding, plus 30 mins on the ground waiting for stands to become available. With the financial costs to the airlines for these delays as well as the inconvenience caused to thousands of passengers why did someone not object to this? The worst thing is no matter what is said, nothing will be done and exactly the same will happen next time.
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:30
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I could not agree more! How the hell was this allowed? How dare he be allowed to cause disruption of this kind?

Its just another case of UK bending over and touching our toes, and waiting for a shafting! Doing whatever the Americans say!

What has the cost been to UK PLC?

I am so angry about this, I am flying tomorrow and am sure to lose money if this man is flying out of LHR!

What time is he leaving?

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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:33
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Oh gosh, the POTUS seems to have gotten a few folks in a snit.
Well, think again.
The host country decides on the airfield to be used, subject to security concerns....so, if you want to complain, direct your vibes to number 10, Downing Street.

And...see if it will, do any good....good luck, Bubba.
We, in America, couldn't care less, as it is a Brit caused 'problem'.

Over to you, samg.
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:35
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Hey, theres a big world outside of America you know!

The press were reporting his DEMAND to land at LHR!

Leader of the free world.......as long as we all do what were told!
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:36
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Perk of the job when you're the most powerful man in the world.

Oh ! and the biggest W****r !

Just hope the CIA don't monitor PPRuNe, otherwise it's Guantanamo here I come !
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:37
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Let me assure you that this American does not like it either. And it did not used to be this way.

This "stop all traffic" started with the Reagan administration, and seems to get worse with each change. I donít know if it is symptomatic of the growing Imperial Presidency or my countryís slide into a police state. Maybe both.

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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:38
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Just to think a couple of centuries ago, it was the other way around, America worked for the Brits.

Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble...
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:41
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, I know just as well as you do that the "host" country selects where a visiting VIP lands. It is just too bad that these folks here that love to sling arrow indiscriminately at any chance to bash the US and Bush cannot be bothered to check a few blatantly obvious and easily found facts out.

As you posted,

so, if you want to complain, direct your vibes to number 10, Downing Street.
Not to mention that there are two threads running on this very subject in Jet Blast.
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:44
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Well, unfortunately it's the same here in the states, the idiot in chief seems to always fly into commercial airports bringing everything to a standstill.

If this is for 'security concerns' then why does he not avail himself of the numerous nearby military bases ?
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:45
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He was supposed to fly into Ireland a few months back. An awful lot of tax payers money was spent on security. And then he does'nt turn up.

God Bless America
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:45
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10 Downing ST

What's the point of complaining to there.....it's just an annex office of the White House these days!
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:49
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err, Northolt?

in a 747 - that I'd pay to see !
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