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Will I Lose My Driving Licence Today?

Old 28th Sep 2007, 15:40
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Not to mention the fumes from the fuel igniting like a barbeque gone bad...

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Old 28th Sep 2007, 15:41
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Always wondered about this. Aren't cigarettes drugs? Don't they have some sort of effect or stimulation on the human brain (why else would people smoke) so therefore, isn't it like drinking at the wheel? Plus you can't be in 100% cuntrol of a car whilst holding on to a lit cigarette.
I also note that a lot of smokers I see in cars, are also carrying children in the car. Good for their health then...NOT!
Ban smoking ...Period!
148a (i)
Safe driving and riding needs concentration.
Avoid distractions when driving or riding such as
· loud music (this may mask other sounds)
· trying to read maps
· inserting a cassette or CD or tuning a radio
· arguing with your passengers or other road users
148 (ii)
The following must not be done whilst driving a motor vehicle
· eating and drinking
· smoking
I see that the previous poster had the earlier quote from the Highway Code, not the updated version.
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Old 28th Sep 2007, 17:06
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What I want to know is, when did the Highway Code become law?

It never was before.
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Old 28th Sep 2007, 17:36
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If the online introduction to the highway code is to be believed, smoking whilst driving is actually illegal.


Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words ‘MUST/MUST NOT’. In addition, the rule includes an abbreviated reference to the legislation which creates the offence. An explanation of the abbreviations can be found in 'The road user and the law'.
Although failure to comply with the other rules of the Code will not, in itself, cause a person to be prosecuted, The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court proceedings under the Traffic Acts (see 'The road user and the law') to establish liability. This includes rules which use advisory wording such as ‘should/should not’ or ‘do/do not’.
148 (ii)
The following must not be done whilst driving a motor vehicle
· eating and drinking
· smoking
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Old 28th Sep 2007, 19:14
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The police do not decide whether your driving is Without Due Care. Only a court can do that (unless you opt to admit it for a quiet life and accept a ticket).

If you have a tale to tell and you tell it to a bench of magistrates (nearly all of whom are drivers themselves) you have a decent chance of being acquitted - after all the cae has to be proved beyond reasonable doubt.
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Old 28th Sep 2007, 19:30
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Cigarettes affect your night vision.

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Old 28th Sep 2007, 19:40
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Old 28th Sep 2007, 20:19
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Basically the traffic Taliban and courts use the code as a 'bench mark'. They go by it in convictions.

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Old 29th Sep 2007, 00:16
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Sounds like a very lucky escape Mr er340790,

The corflakes would've knackered ya laptop
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Old 29th Sep 2007, 01:25
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Smoking is a drug and very addictive.

Telling you you cannot smoke in a car is a complete waste of time, you are going to do it anyway.

Have you ever tried to give up and told everyone you were, then secretly smoked until they found you out ?

Remember all those places you hid those packets. And the millions of lighters you bought because you had to throw them away in case they were found.

Alcoholics can pull drink out of the walls, smokers can do the same with cigarettes.

We will always try to find a way around any legislation, but when will the legislation become too burdensome to make us think we can not still find a way around it ?
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Old 29th Sep 2007, 02:10
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Very true blacklace, too bad more people don't realize the obvious, especially our politicians.
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Old 29th Sep 2007, 04:23
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Interesting discussion on C4 News last night. On one side, A.N Other...one of the horse hair shirt, "we know whats best for you, so do as you are told" brigade offering a pious lecture ( as they are all prone to do ) and on the other...one Quentin Wilson.....who summated matters perfectly. Another piece of "soft" headline grabbing by a politician when, as he pointed out, the real issue is that in the UK we have a very low driving skills base and what is needed, as has been discussed here many times,. is ......driver education..

The above costs ££'s of course, is not a headline / politician's ego boosting topic and thus will not transpire......sadly.
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Old 29th Sep 2007, 11:31
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Jeez Blackace, you mean I can't hide me bottle as well as me fags anymore.

One has tried this, this morning, and can report it interferes with the smoking and drinking whilst driving.
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Old 29th Sep 2007, 17:27
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If I can't take my hand off the wheel to light a cigarette or have a drag, because its dangerous now, does that mean I must also drive everywhere in first gear?
As regards driver education, of course any death or injury is not acceptable but having lived in Portugal for three years and driven in many other southern and eastern European countries, we really are not as bad in the UK as some would make out. It's always pleasure to get back on the M25 when I arrive back from Portugal and I am not being sarcastic.
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