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Birmingham City Council does not recognise Christmas !

Old 2nd Nov 2005, 20:03
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Birmingham City Council does not recognise Christmas !

I came across a copy of a leaflet issued by Birmingham City Council Regulatory Services today.

It includes a calendar covering the year Nov 2005 to Oct 2006.

Looking at the calendar I was surprised that there was no reference to Christmas on the calendar, nor even any marking made against Christmas or Boxing day.

I do note however that religious festivals of Diwali, and Eid are mentioned, as is the winter solstice (a pagan festival).

Easter gets a mention but not August Bank Holiday.

One presumes therefore that Christmas as a religious festival does not exist in Birmingham ?
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This is still predominantely a CHRISTIAN country which is extremely tolerant of other religions. This political correctness has gone too far and someday we shall all reap the rewards of allowing the bloody minded (perhaps that should be mindless) petty dictatorlike officials to impose this crap.
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Read in a paper today that "Lambeth" a part of LONDON are now having "Winter Lights" instead of Christmas Lights
We are NOT a predominately Christian Country the last time I looked....
WE ARE A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY with "Ethnic Minorities" living here, MOST of whom integrate with the indigenous population... i.e. US .
I live in another country/culture I obey their rules/customs.. just what is difficult in "vice-versa"
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Do we really have to do this selfsame thread with the selfsame trite & tired posts EVERY b****y Christmas?


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It's not just every Christmas Flaps.....it seems to be every other week nowadays.

I guess (assuming that these reports are accurate, which they rarely are) if the Churches were as packed full as the Mosques etc. then Christian festivals may actually still appear on calendars etc.

But if the majority of people dont go to church, dont really care about their religion, then i guess it would be fair to say that it shouldnt appear on calendars. At least Eid / Diwali etc are celebrated - when was the last time you went to church on Christmas / Easter?

I dont go to church, but there again i dont get angry by reports from the "Anti-PC Brigade" of such great slurs on our National Conscience.

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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 22:14
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Shhhhh!!! nobody mention Christmas.
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Flapsforty

You must not say 'Christmas' any more it offends our
multi-cultural, ethnically varied, rainbow coalition of a country.

We are no longer allowed to be Christian, we must say
'Winterval'

There, is that agreeable to the thought police?

And apparently some of the designs for our Christmas postage
stamps offends the sensibilities of the Sikhs.

Would the person who last saw Britain's backbone please let us know where it is!
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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 22:41
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Yes Flaps, we do. Perhaps YOU do not understand..........."bloody" Christmas indeed!
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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 22:44
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Astrodome,

There is no problem with Christianity on the Birmingham CC website, so I for one find this interesting. Any chance of a scan?
At least for now it is still called BirmingHAM!


Careful mate, you could be seen as inciting something!!



Could we have a similar thread at Easter please?
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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 22:57
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Perhaps YOU do not understand
Are you really that insecure in your beliefs?

Why is it that this sort of borderline racist rant seems to eminate from the same group of people?

Funny thing is many of our Christmas traditions were celebrated centuries before Christ was born. The 12 days of Christmas, the bright fires, the yule log, the giving of gifts, carnivals(parades) with floats, carolers who sing while going from house to house, the holiday feasts, and the church processions can all be traced back to the early Mesopotamians. Historians and religious scholars believe Christ was born in September, but the exact date has never been pinpointed.

Some legends claim that the Christian "Christmas" celebration was invented to compete against the pagan celebrations of Saturnalia which were also in December. The 25th was not only sacred to the Romans but also the Persians whose religion Mithraism was one of Christianity's main rivals at that time. The Church eventually was successful in taking the merriment, lights, and gifts from the Saturanilia festival and bringing them to the celebration of Christmas.

Anyway, why does Christmas need to be on a calendar? We are bombarded with enough adverts on tv and decorations in the streets to remind us when Christmas is.
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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 23:04
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Having spent a fair amount of time working with Councils (that's with not for!), I would suggest it's got nowt to do with political correctness and more to do with incompetency otherwise why include Easter and omit August Bank Holiday (which is not a religious festival)?

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Flypuppy, no, I am not insecure in my beliefs, neither have I made a "borderline racist rant", nor any other rant for that matter and neither am I a member of "the same group of people" as you aver.

I merely make the observation that I, like many others, Christian or not, get thoroughly fed up with the dilution of what used to be the traditional way of life in the country of my birth by either petty officials or smart arses like you who seem to be hellbent in attempting to undermine the traditional values of me and most of my fellow countrymen. Birmingham is, after all, part of Great Britain, a Christian country where the Head of State is also the Defender of the Faith.

Should others care to practise their faith in Great Britain, they are free to do so. Such is the freedom enjoyed by all citizens in our country and long may we all enjoy those freedoms.
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Do we really have to do this selfsame thread with the selfsame trite & tired posts EVERY b****y Christmas?
Christmas? It isn't Christmas again is it?

I thought we were just coming up to Bonfire Night when religiously tolerant Protestants can burn Roman Catholics in effigy and generally have a jolly time eating roast potatoes and setting fire to the children.
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Never mind Christmas, Easter has been cancelled. They have just found the body


same old drill......hat, coat, door etc.
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Old 3rd Nov 2005, 05:29
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"That´s bl**dy extortionate!", exploded Tony, "A million pounds, for just 3 days!"
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Old 3rd Nov 2005, 05:45
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Would the person who last saw Britain's backbone please let us know where it is!

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Whether or not Jesus was actually born on the 25th December is wholly irrelevant IMHO. It is well-established as the day on which Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus - Christmas Day.

Concerns about historical accuracy are no part of the motives of the "politically-correct" extremists behind this sort of absurd, and in my view offensive, action.
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