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Old 21st Nov 2004, 11:14
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Signing Passport photo's

Any one know if pilots are deemed to be able to sign photographs etc.

I did one the other day using my professional degree which i might add i have being doing for years with no refusals.

One Captain thought i was doing it as a pilot and "started" which caused much confussion for the baggage handler. And the captain in a huff because we sent it off anyway.

Anyone else sign these forms as a pilot or know of any rulings.

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Old 21st Nov 2004, 14:26
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Look, this is not rocket science. It took me three minutes to get to this site
and here's the list of suitable persons to countersign applications and photos -

ACCEPTABLE COUNTERSIGNATURES

* Accountant
* Articled Clerk of a Limited Company
* Assurance Agent of Recognised Company
* Bank/Building Society Official
* Barrister
* Broker
* Chairman/Director of Limited Company
* Chemist
* Chiropodist
* Christian Science Practitioner
* Commissioner of Oaths
* Councillor: Local or County
* Civil Servant (permanent)
* Dentist
* Engineer (with professional Qualifications)
* Fire Service Official
* Funeral Director
* Insurance agent (full time) of a recognised Company
* Journalist
* Justice of the Peace
* Legal Secretary (members and fellows of the Institute of legal secretaries)(sic)
* Local Government Officer
* Manager/Personnel Officer (of Limited Company)
* Member of Parliament
* Merchant Navy Officer
* Minister of a recognised religion
* Nurse (SRN and SEN)
* Officer of the armed services (Active or Retired)
* Optician
* Person with Honours (eg OBE MBE etc)(sic)
* Person with recognised qualification (eg BSc, PhD etc)(sic)
* Photographer (Professional)
* Police Officer
* Post Office Official
* President/Secretary of a recognised organisation
* Salvation Army Officer
* Social Worker
* Solicitor
* Surveyor
* Teacher, Lecturer
* Trade Union Officer
* Travel Agency (Qualified)
* Valuers and auctioneers (fellow and associate members of the incorporated society)(sic)
* Warrant officers and Chief Petty Officers

Or persons of similar standing to the above, working or retired, are acceptable as countersignatories.

So I fit into 3 categories.
No pilots though.
Amusing to see that journalists are OK.
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Old 21st Nov 2004, 14:46
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Christian Science Practitioner whats one of them?

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Old 21st Nov 2004, 14:50
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Old 21st Nov 2004, 15:06
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I just sent my passport in for renewal, so I've been through this very exersize. I got the lady at the bank to sign for me, but the thing is, I think this is a strange anachronism that harks back to the nineteenth centuary and should be abolished.

Firstly, it means that people in certain jobs are deemed as more...responsible? than other, equally demanding professions. WTF? Chiropodist, Salvation Army General? Fecking Travel Agents! What about Computer programmer? or as has been pointed out, Professional pilot. What about my mate what owns a roofing company? Apparently he's not good enough.

They include warnings to say they'll follow up with the reference, but I bet they don't. How would they anyway? Write a letter? Pay a visit?

It's just stupid and pointless in a typically English way and should be done away with


There, that feels better
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Old 21st Nov 2004, 15:07
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Journalists How did they get on the list!!!
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Old 21st Nov 2004, 15:16
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As a magistrate I have signed hundreds of passports, along with shotgun certificates and others. For twenty years my informal and unofficial fee has been one pint, which has never, in my experience, been begrudged. Now any old Christian Scientist can sign. I don't mind that from a religious view, but what about the beer I shall lose?
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Old 21st Nov 2004, 15:27
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I have signed several time for friends and have had no kick-back. I am a non-graduate professional pilot. and just put "airline pilot" as my qualification to sign.

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Old 21st Nov 2004, 15:48
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So, as a licenced aircraft engineer (licenced by the CAA), I can sign an application, but a pilot (also licenced by the CAA), can't . (unless they bury people in their spare time)

There must be a logical explanation, but I can't see what it is.

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Old 21st Nov 2004, 16:00
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Strange. As a commercial helicopter pilot, i.e. an ATPL(H) holder I was told by the British High Commission in Lagos that I could sign them. I've done 4 up till now with no refusals.
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Old 21st Nov 2004, 16:30
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I believe that the signatory must also be a British Citizen in the case of applications for British passports (makes sense).

I've been asked several times but have had to decline due to lack of said citizenship - Irish isn't acceptable.


(PS Why has this been moved to Jet Blast?)
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Old 21st Nov 2004, 16:48
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Oh Dear Mr Raptor, the Sainted Thomas Moor got himself denoggined for taking a pint pot off a punter, admitedly other things were taken into concideration, and the pot was of silver.
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Old 21st Nov 2004, 17:21
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Rota, I think it was prolly a pre-emptive stike before the colourful comments started.

Person with Honours
WTF!?!
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Old 21st Nov 2004, 19:46
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Ships Captains could marry folk and order their execution, can Airline Captains do that?.
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Old 21st Nov 2004, 19:51
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I wish they could drapes!
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Old 22nd Nov 2004, 07:53
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As the last bit of the list said:

Or persons of similar standing to the above, working or retired, are acceptable as countersignatories
So there you go. Professional pilots are off the hook. Sure beats asking your doctor who would probably charge you as tenner.

I've countersigned a couple of applications as an Air Traffic Controller, as did a friend of mine when we had to apply for separate passports for the kids. He actually got a phone call from the passport office to check the details, so they do follow up some of the countersignatories.
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Old 22nd Nov 2004, 07:59
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Signing Passport photo's what? Who is Passport photo, and what does he or she possess which may require signing?

Or did you not mean to put that apostrophe where it didn't need to be?
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Old 22nd Nov 2004, 08:12
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They include warnings to say they'll follow up with the reference, but I bet they don't. How would they anyway? Write a letter? Pay a visit?
Indeed they do, on occasion, request clarification of the status of the person signing the pics.

I verified my next door neighbours ID and was telephoned by the Passport Office who asked where I worked etc.
I then had to fax them my Professional Qualifications and also my payslip (amount earned I blanked out) before they would issue a new passport.

A male friend of mine also verified someone's passport application and received a phone call asking the same things and requesting documentation by fax.
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Old 22nd Nov 2004, 08:24
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If you are signing a photo, do you not have to have known the person for 2 years?
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Old 22nd Nov 2004, 08:35
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Here in the land of Oz, in the last few years the Govt has got sensible for a change.

Anyone on the electoral roll ( all ozies over 18 must be registered) and who has known the person for at least 2 yrs can vouch for some one. On occasion you will be contacted to verify your information.
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