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jonathang 23rd Sep 2004 11:57

BoraBora007, perhaps you would be so kind as to define the exact parameters which define a Sponsorship.

Even the pre September 11th 2001 schemes involved entry on a cadet level salary.
Other current schemes also include upfront payments and reduced entry level pay.

You pay one way or another.

BoraBora007 23rd Sep 2004 12:20

Other sponsorship deals do not involve a bond, which chains you to an airline for 7 years. Yes you pay up front for some of the training, but not all, as you do with this scheme.

Also as you are aware, a number of cadets in this scheme won't be offered sponsorship terms at all.

Btw - you can only be from one place jonathang.

jonathang 23rd Sep 2004 12:33


Other sponsorship deals do not involve a bond,
Not correct.

There are many ways to cover the costs of offering a Sponsorship. Ultimately someone has to make the payments to the FTO. With full Sponsorships pre September 11th. The airlines recouped some of that training cost through reduced salary.

Please don't believe for a minute that 60k covers your costs of training into the RHS. Try double that figure at least.


Also as you are aware, a number of cadets in this scheme won't be offered sponsorship terms at all.
CTC will do everything they can to secure jobs for all cadets. But yeh nobody is naive to the fact jobs are never guaranteed.

It is the risk that is taken by anyone self funding or Sponsored.

Just ask the BA cadets who were placed in the holding pool post September 11th.


Btw - you can only be from one place jonathang.
Not that is has any relevance to this topic. Try looking under User CP / Profile. The field where that data is entered is:

Location:
Where you live


Not

From: (as per displayed on posts)

Multiple locations called temp relocation.

BoraBora007 23rd Sep 2004 12:50

Some cadets dont get "sponsored" at any stage. They go straight into the holding pool. Therefore Im not surprised it has been renamed the "ctc wings" scheme, instead of "ctc sponsored cadet scheme".

Can you give me some examples of other sponsorship deals that need a bond of £60k?

It does not cost £120k to get into the RHS. The modular route proves much much cheaper than that.

If its displayed as "from" on the public posts, I think they want you to put where you are from, not everywhere you have lived for any length of time.

jonathang 23rd Sep 2004 13:02


It does not cost £120k to get into the RHS. The modular route proves much much cheaper than that.
The actual direct cost of a modular route pre type rating does not cost anywhere near 120k off course.

The actual cost of the CTC training into the job role does.

The training isn't the final goal. Getting the job is.

Do you think the fATPL will get you a job automatically? How many fATPL's do you know? How many have jobs?


Can you give me some examples of other sponsorship deals that need a bond of £60k?
None, DIRECTLY. There are many ways, as already stated to incorporate this cost. There needs to be some security for CTC.


If its displayed as "from" on the public posts, I think they want you to put where you are from, not everywhere you have lived for any length of time.
Still fail to see the relevance but I live at all three locations. Distraction from your arguments perhaps.


Also, it is polite to answer questions first before asking your own back.

BoraBora007 23rd Sep 2004 13:35

Dont really see where you have asked questions, as I defined what I think a sponsorship scheme is in a previous post.

This will be my last post on this topic. However I feel the debate that was initiated reveals a lot about the scheme to would be applicants.

The scheme is no longer a sponsorship scheme, the name relfects this.

It is a fast-track to the RHS, not "a fully funded" scheme as stated on the old website (they have ommitted this on the new website)

There are now four strands of students:

a) sponsored students - tcx.
b) pre-selected students - ezy.
c) self-sponsored students - whitetail.
d)cpl/IR students entering the ATP pool.

I do think it is a good scheme, with excellent training, and a great chance of the RHS in a jet.

However I am still angered at Easyjets decision.

I hope this helps would be applicants

Wing_Bound_Vortex 24th Sep 2004 02:58

Bora,

I don't think many people ever clung to the idea that the Ctc scheme was a full sponsorship deal, if they've ever existed anyway. It provides a fast track to the rhs of a jet and esp with Easy a good chance of a quick command.

Even the old BA scheme wasn't a sponsorship deal, the cadets were on a reduced pay scale for years afterwards to pay for the scheme, whereas with Ctc the bond just gets paid back to you over the course of 7 years, plus most of the interest on that sum. Either way it works out the same in the end, you pay for your training, there's just a job at the end of it all. The cadet takes more of a risk, but hey that's life these days!

Anyone thinking of applying, do it and see how you go, there has been nothing better, that includes the old BA scheme

WBV

apaddyinuk 25th Nov 2004 02:04

Easyjet Part Sponsorship
 
Hello all,
Just sent my application online for Easyjets part sponsorship cadet programme being done via CTC Wings. I was wondering if anyone is familiar with this process. I went through a similiar process with Aer Lingus prior to 9/11 but that scuppered things, however the Aer Lingus one was a full sponsorship.
Hoping one of you may have some info for me regarding any aspect of the process.
Thanks all.
Paddy :ok:

Penworth 25th Nov 2004 08:39

Check out this thread. Should have all the info you should require on the wings scheme.

PW

nickmanl 17th Jun 2005 11:58

easyJet CTC application form
 
I managed to get through the first round without a hitch, and this may sound silly but I'm looking for some advice on what should be the easiest question of all!

They ask why do you want to be a pilot, and I don't want to hit them with too many cliches and sound too much like a child in my enthusiasm.

Does anyone have any hints or tips as to how to impress?

PPWannaBe 17th Jun 2005 12:26

Be yourself! Cliches aren't too bad and they are looking for evidence of a long term interest in aviation.

So if you have been interested in flying since you were a kid, say so.

PP

Brasher 20th Jun 2005 02:25

There are 15 pages of advice on the CTC scheme. The search facility is a wonderful thing!!! :ok:

WingDown 19th Dec 2005 21:32

There is a whole thread full on information regarding the CTC Wings scheme on this forum, have a quick look further down the interviews page. This should answer most your questions about the scheme with lots of posts from people who have either been through the selection process or have completed their training with CTC.

Cheers

WD

scroggs 20th Dec 2005 07:15

Try this thread. It's near the top of the front page of this forum and really wouldn't have taken a lot of searching for - had you looked.

Scroggs


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