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SkyRider9 20th Feb 2023 05:29

SunExpress FO Recruitment Process
 
Hello everyone, inexperienced CPL holder here.

SunExpress has contacted me and right now they want me to train for Mollymawk. I've heard that their process (Mollymawk->sim assessment->interview) is very difficult and they have a very low recruitment rate

Has anyone been called or hired yet? Any pilots here with SunExpress experience? I'd highly appreciate any info, details, or help regarding the recruitment process

Thanks!

Prospective_Pilot 23rd Apr 2023 21:35

Hi,

Good day. Sunexpress applicant who had the recruitment process stopped back in 2019 here.

Hows the prep with the new format of Mollymawk? How was your overall experience?

SkyRider9 24th Apr 2023 04:33


Originally Posted by Prospective_Pilot (Post 11424912)
Hi,

Good day. Sunexpress applicant who had the recruitment process stopped back in 2019 here.

Hows the prep with the new format of Mollymawk? How was your overall experience?

Hi. The official website gives you 20 trials for each 3 modules and also 2 trials for Maths&Sci, Aeronautics, English. There are some changes to the models btw.

It's not so difficult and practice kind of makes it perfect. I had a good score in all modules, it's certainly not difficult if you prepare beforehand. Currently I'm waiting for the final interview.

AviatorBoy_95 24th Apr 2023 06:34


Originally Posted by SkyRider9 (Post 11424987)
Hi. The official website gives you 20 trials for each 3 modules and also 2 trials for Maths&Sci, Aeronautics, English. There are some changes to the models btw.

It's not so difficult and practice kind of makes it perfect. I had a good score in all modules, it's certainly not difficult if you prepare beforehand. Currently I'm waiting for the final interview.

Hi SkyRider9
Thanks for the feedback.
Do you comfirm that you you took the Aeronautics and English test during the real exam? I'm asking because we are supposed to provide the compagny with TOEIC (or equivalent) scores and Aeronautics is flagged is supposed to be in beta on the training website.
Also, do you mind sharing your scores to have an idea of what to target during the training?
Thank you in advance

SkyRider9 24th Apr 2023 06:45


Originally Posted by AviatorBoy_95 (Post 11425035)
Hi SkyRider9
Thanks for the feedback.
Do you comfirm that you you took the Aeronautics and English test during the real exam? I'm asking because we are supposed to provide the compagny with TOEIC (or equivalent) scores and Aeronautics is flagged is supposed to be in beta on the training website.
Also, do you mind sharing your scores to have an idea of what to target during the training?
Thank you in advance

I did take those tests indeed. Aeronautics is like 3 questions and English is like 7-8 questions. I did provide the company with an IELTS score also but they still do it. For aeronautics you don't get a score, it's just written as "beta". You don't get exact scores but percentiles: I was in +85th percentile for all 3 game modules. In training tests I got scores like ~2300 on TS, 97-100% in SO, and ~100 in WM as far as I can remember

(By the way this is out of context but I have a problem with text messages. I suppose you can only have 1 message in your inbox, and again and again I get notified that I "don't have any space left in the mailbox". Any ideas?)

AviatorBoy_95 24th Apr 2023 10:36

Impressive scores! well done!
Regarding the issue you are encountering, you unfortunately have some limitations (moderator validation, 1 message in PM ...) because you're quite new in the forum. I beleive that after posting 5 messages, these limitations are removed. I see that you currently have 3 messages postes, so u're almost there ;)

SkyRider9 24th Apr 2023 10:48


Originally Posted by AviatorBoy_95 (Post 11425139)
Impressive scores! well done!
Regarding the issue you are encountering, you unfortunately have some limitations (moderator validation, 1 message in PM ...) because you're quite new in the forum. I beleive that after posting 5 messages, these limitations are removed. I see that you currently have 3 messages postes, so u're almost there ;)

Ah I see, thank you so much! :)

NotaPilot99 24th Apr 2023 14:33


Originally Posted by SkyRider9 (Post 11424987)
Currently I'm waiting for the final interview.

Hi, does this mean you already went through almost the whole process? I have the sim assessment coming up for SXS in May/June, so I'd be interested to know how you prepared for it and what it's like overall. Also, did you do it in Antalya or Ankara?

Good luck with the interview!

LimaYankee19 24th Apr 2023 15:00

Hi all,

newbie here, has the Mollymawk test changed drastically?
Thanks!

SkyRider9 24th Apr 2023 21:05


Originally Posted by NotaPilot99 (Post 11425254)
Hi, does this mean you already went through almost the whole process? I have the sim assessment coming up for SXS in May/June, so I'd be interested to know how you prepared for it and what it's like overall. Also, did you do it in Antalya or Ankara?

Good luck with the interview!

Yes indeed. For Mollymawk I tried to come up with my own methods for each module. Finding a "cheat code" helps out a ton. For the sim assessment, be fully prepared for the scenario and the aircraft. You'll most likely fly with a crosswind so beware. I don't think you'll be rejected for missing one or two non-essential call-outs but make a stable approach and landing. I did both Mollymawk and sim assessment in Antalya.

Thank you so much; best of luck!

SkyRider9 24th Apr 2023 21:08


Originally Posted by LimaYankee19 (Post 11425259)
Hi all,

newbie here, has the Mollymawk test changed drastically?
Thanks!

Hi

Compared to a year ago, yes. There are some changes to 2 modules & spatial orientation has been changed completely. But don't worry bc you'll get enough trials to prepare.

Prospective_Pilot 25th Apr 2023 08:40

Hi @ SkyRider9

Thanks for your reply. Would like to know if all the applicants you gave the mollymawk with passed or not? Previously the rejection rate in the mollymawk phase was quite high.

Also could you share some of the cheat codes you used for each of the games?

Thanks.

SkyRider9 25th Apr 2023 08:55


Originally Posted by Prospective_Pilot (Post 11425621)
Hi @ SkyRider9

Thanks for your reply. Would like to know if all the applicants you gave the mollymawk with passed or not? Previously the rejection rate in the mollymawk phase was quite high.

Thanks.

I don't know about the others. None of them were in the same phase as me either, they were cadet candidates who had to wait for an email to learn about the result: I learned mine right after I finished my tests.

Prospective_Pilot 26th Apr 2023 06:15

Thank you for the info :) SkyRider9

LimaYankee19 27th Apr 2023 18:38

Thanks a lot for the reply.

ABCLUMS 3rd May 2023 06:50


Originally Posted by SkyRider9 (Post 11425629)
I don't know about the others. None of them were in the same phase as me either, they were cadet candidates who had to wait for an email to learn about the result: I learned mine right after I finished my tests.

hey man, How did you apply? and when did you apply?

NotaPilot99 6th May 2023 12:46


Originally Posted by SkyRider9 (Post 11425426)
Yes indeed. For Mollymawk I tried to come up with my own methods for each module. Finding a "cheat code" helps out a ton. For the sim assessment, be fully prepared for the scenario and the aircraft. You'll most likely fly with a crosswind so beware. I don't think you'll be rejected for missing one or two non-essential call-outs but make a stable approach and landing. I did both Mollymawk and sim assessment in Antalya.

Thank you so much; best of luck!

Thank you for the information. My sim screening is coming up next week in AYT and looking at the prep sheet they sent me I can't help but wonder how I can adequately prepare for this as I've never really flown a multi-pilot aircraft. How did you use the screening pilot who acted as PM/PNF? Did you learn the checklists beforehand or at least knew when to initiate them?

BlueBlueSky 6th May 2023 13:07


Originally Posted by NotaPilot99 (Post 11430969)
Thank you for the information. My sim screening is coming up next week in AYT and looking at the prep sheet they sent me I can't help but wonder how I can adequately prepare for this as I've never really flown a multi-pilot aircraft. How did you use the screening pilot who acted as PM/PNF? Did you learn the checklists beforehand or at least knew when to initiate them?

I don't think it is necessary to read and do the checklist if you're not type rated, usually it should be sufficient to just call for the checklist and than the assessor calls "completed".
Eventually a simulator assessment is more about your PF and PNF CRM (teamwork) skills than reading and do-ing the items from the checklist.

Good luck, if possible please share an update with us how it went!

NotaPilot99 6th May 2023 18:48


Originally Posted by BlueBlueSky (Post 11430975)
I don't think it is necessary to read and do the checklist if you're not type rated, usually it should be sufficient to just call for the checklist and than the assessor calls "completed".
Eventually a simulator assessment is more about your PF and PNF CRM (teamwork) skills than reading and do-ing the items from the checklist.

Good luck, if possible please share an update with us how it went!

That makes sense, thank you. I will write a report after my session, if I'll be allowed to of course. If I forget to do it, feel free to remind me.

BlueBlueSky 7th May 2023 07:03


Originally Posted by NotaPilot99 (Post 11431141)
That makes sense, thank you. I will write a report after my session, if I'll be allowed to of course. If I forget to do it, feel free to remind me.

Thanks, if you don’t mind, can you share when you applied for this position?

JumpseatRequest 10th May 2023 14:52

BlueBlueSky What is your status? are you already preparing for the Mollymawk tests?

BlueBlueSky 11th May 2023 10:44


Originally Posted by JumpseatRequest (Post 11432852)
BlueBlueSky What is your status? are you already preparing for the Mollymawk tests?

Currently practicing the Mollymawk tests but still awaiting an official invitation from SunExpress.

JumpseatRequest 14th May 2023 06:46


Originally Posted by BlueBlueSky (Post 11433156)
Currently practicing the Mollymawk tests but still awaiting an official invitation from SunExpress.

Thanks for the reply mate!

But where can you practice already?

NotaPilot99 14th May 2023 21:18

Simulator screening session

Preparation: SXS screening .pdf, Lufthansa systems LIDO chart videos, YT videos about type (Pilotclimb, 737NG driver, Just Planes), X-plane 11 B738, simulator IFR refresher session, MCC material on CRM/task-sharing/callouts, B738 checklist

Place: Antalya port in a B738 FFS, at the ramp give your passport and your taxi driver's ID card to the porter

Screening: Tasks exactly as in the brochure, very demanding and not hard to fail if you have no previous MPA experience

Tips: make sure you learn the brochure very well! Pitch-power values are of special importance. Also, SXS claims you should fly it like you do your current type, which is essentially true, but my opinion is that one should familiarize themselves with the type beforehand. Youtube videos from the mentioned channels help a lot with this - especially with speeds, call-outs, checklist triggers and when to retract/extend flaps.

Result: Passed

Good luck!

BlueBlueSky 15th May 2023 11:33


Originally Posted by JumpseatRequest (Post 11434494)
Thanks for the reply mate!

But where can you practice already?

I’m using pilotassessments.com as they’re the only provider with the updated versions of the Mollymawk tests. Can recommend!

BlueBlueSky 15th May 2023 11:35


Originally Posted by NotaPilot99 (Post 11434813)
Simulator screening session

Preparation: SXS screening .pdf, Lufthansa systems LIDO chart videos, YT videos about type (Pilotclimb, 737NG driver, Just Planes), X-plane 11 B738, simulator IFR refresher session, MCC material on CRM/task-sharing/callouts, B738 checklist

Place: Antalya port in a B738 FFS, at the ramp give your passport and your taxi driver's ID card to the porter

Screening: Tasks exactly as in the brochure, very demanding and not hard to fail if you have no previous MPA experience

Tips: make sure you learn the brochure very well! Pitch-power values are of special importance. Also, SXS claims you should fly it like you do your current type, which is essentially true, but my opinion is that one should familiarize themselves with the type beforehand. Youtube videos from the mentioned channels help a lot with this - especially with speeds, call-outs, checklist triggers and when to retract/extend flaps.

Result: Passed

Good luck!

Wow, great news buddy! Congratz and thanks for sharing your info.

Prospective_Pilot 16th May 2023 20:07

Hi BlueBlueSky

Good day.

The package that you purchased from pilotassessments.com do the commands come relatively slowly or super fast in SO module? The mock tests for the mollymawk SO module are nothing compared to the actual test. The commands come way faster in the actual test.

Looking forward for your reply.

Thanks.

BlueBlueSky 16th May 2023 20:34


Originally Posted by Prospective_Pilot (Post 11435711)
Hi BlueBlueSky

Good day.

The package that you purchased from pilotassessments.com do the commands come relatively slowly or super fast in SO module? The mock tests for the mollymawk SO module are nothing compared to the actual test. The commands come way faster in the actual test.

Looking forward for your reply.

Thanks.

Hi buddy!

Difficulty increases during the SO practice test on pilotassessments.com, so it begins in a slower pace with only a few turns and moves but increases during the test to a very difficult level (for me) with many and very fast commands.

Still some practice for me on this level :)

A buddy of mine who completed the official Mollymawk assessment mentioned these prep tests form a good preparation!

Cheers!

Prospective_Pilot 8th Sep 2023 13:21

Hi guys,

Hope you're all doing well.

I'd like to hear your interview experiences with SXS in as much detail as possible particularly the types of question asked and overall difficulty of the interview?

Thanks.




SkyRider9 8th Sep 2023 16:00


Originally Posted by Prospective_Pilot (Post 11499355)
Hi guys,

Hope you're all doing well.

I'd like to hear your interview experiences with SXS in as much detail as possible particularly the types of question asked and overall difficulty of the interview?

Thanks.

Ranging from hard to medium-hard overall. It's a 1-hour long interview so expect being tired and bored after half way in. Technical questions are abundant and you're expected to have an overall grasp of the documents, annexes...etc. Psychological interview/HR/CRM questions are not too complex but they like to ask you questions that you'll have a hard time to explain yourself. For technical questions that you don't know the answer, politely say you don't know the exact answer, but you may make an educated guess based on other technical knowledge.

Remember: SXS are known for being extremely elective in the final interview. In my interview day, the success ratio was 0/5. They aren't looking for good pilots: they are looking for a specific type of colleague to work with, so don't feel bad or "not enough" if you fail.. Be yourself, don't be too rigid, they want pilots that are flexible enough to be bent according to their needs & calm but not disinterested pilots. Good Luck!

Prospective_Pilot 8th Sep 2023 16:47

@SkyRider9 Thank you for the info,

Could you give more examples of Psychological interviews / HR / CRM questions that you faced? Also in your opinion which of the 3 departments gave you the toughest questions HR, Flight ops or Psychological?

Thanks

PPoame 21st Sep 2023 15:39

Hi all,

I had just received an email from SXS requesting further documentation. I'm NTR, no experience on CS25 aircraft.

1. From your previous experience with SXS, How long is the selection process and what would be a realistic date that I can expect an interview?

2. What are the best resources to study? I have read above about pilotassessment and mollymawk. I know everyone prepares from ACE technical pilot, but if you have more specific resources or any advice at all I would highly appreciate it!

3. What are the expectations for the Sim check?

flapsupboy 22nd Sep 2023 08:15

First they invite you to the Mollymawk, followed by sim, then HR interview. Pass has an updated test that is quite similar to the mollymawk thing but not 100% identical. You can use that before attempting the mollymawk practice tests which are limited. It'll help you to get good scores.

Dino007 18th Oct 2023 09:06

Tickets
 

Originally Posted by NotaPilot99 (Post 11434813)
Simulator screening session

Preparation: SXS screening .pdf, Lufthansa systems LIDO chart videos, YT videos about type (Pilotclimb, 737NG driver, Just Planes), X-plane 11 B738, simulator IFR refresher session, MCC material on CRM/task-sharing/callouts, B738 checklist

Place: Antalya port in a B738 FFS, at the ramp give your passport and your taxi driver's ID card to the porter

Screening: Tasks exactly as in the brochure, very demanding and not hard to fail if you have no previous MPA experience

Tips: make sure you learn the brochure very well! Pitch-power values are of special importance. Also, SXS claims you should fly it like you do your current type, which is essentially true, but my opinion is that one should familiarize themselves with the type beforehand. Youtube videos from the mentioned channels help a lot with this - especially with speeds, call-outs, checklist triggers and when to retract/extend flaps.

Result: Passed

Good luck!

Hey man, congratulations! Did SXS send you tickets for the 3 rounds ? Thanl you 🙏

kalimera 4th Nov 2023 01:25

Hi does anyone know if EU passport is still mandatory? It didn’t mention in their website about being turkish/EU citizen. TIA

Ryan Phan 13th Nov 2023 03:57

Same question as kalimera. Is there any chance for non EU citizen ICAO pilot with 500TT including 300+ on A320 applying for NTR position?

eurotown 16th Nov 2023 07:49

EU passport is not mandatory for sunexpress.

pilot freak 18th Nov 2023 15:14

Is there anyone willing to share their interview experience?

flapsupboy 18th Nov 2023 18:36

The final interview is the most dreaded part for many. Usually two captains,HR rep and the aviation psychologist will be present. They ask a range of questions from making you show different countries on the map to mental math calculations and different ATPL theory questions. Your english fluency will also be assessed. Make sure you cover all the areas equally since they try to find your weak spot and challenge you. You could be tricked too to find out how you react.A lot of people find this interview very challenging so prepare well.

argyrisrc4 13th Feb 2024 13:00

Guys, do you know if they provide tickets for all 3 phases?


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