Did mine in Shoreham last week. Absolutely fantastic!

In which school did you made it?

FPT at Shoreham and CRM at White Waltham can both offer the course in the UK, think there is at least one other too

British aerobatic academy as well apparently.

About to finish my A-UPRT with British Aerobatics Academy. I can certainly recommend them. Very professional, to a good standard and friendly.

We find ourselves where we are when a decision was taken to teach “prevention” training ~ stall & spin awareness, as oppose to the previous training of stalling and intentional spinning with recovery. And depending upon the trainer a few aerobatics as well.

The next generation of student had therefore never been required to turned an aircraft onto its back and recover. No exposure to unusual attitudes etc. So when that 10 to the minus 9 event occurs, the junior birdman has never seen anything like it before and unsurprisingly cannot cope.....

That essentially is why the modular bolt on UPRT has now appeared. Some might say that it should be part of the single engine phase of any professional course.

One wonders how airline pilots managed before this further cost embuggerance....

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It’s a pure cash cow. That is all it is. Disgusting frankly.

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I feel this could become something like the Driver CPC in haulage. The entire industry is against it... Except the training providers.

Hear hear. 👍

Why I voted BREXIT....Dear Old EU Regs.

I heard that it has to be renewed every year like the UPRT currently done during LPCs....

How long did the course last?

When you complete the advanced UPRT course you gain a completation certificate; you dont have no one rating on the license about it so I am not understunding how is possibile make a renewal if its not a rating (in the LPC its part of this).
Is there any official document mentioning this?

If you're a superhuman and the weather is perfect you can do it in one day - 5hr of theory and 3hr of flying afterwards. But flying 3hr of aerobatics more or less non-stop is not something I'd recommend, so realistically aim for two/three days there. I have managed to do it in three since the weather was really bad.

wigbam - is it just aerobatics then? I’ve seen footage from a friend where they appear to be doing formation aerobatics. Is that it?

Could’ve been another student & instructor at end of lesson & no extra flying charge of course.

Some “schools” quoting near £3000!!! Outrageous for 3 hours of aeros...if that’s what they’re doing!

Parkfell.

But how come existing airline crew are not doing it? Or will everyone do it at some point?

Also, the bitching is about the sudden added cost not budgeted for by those of us caught ‘twixt TR & 19 Dec.

And £3K is outrageous for 3 hours flying 5 hours TKI. Switch to an Aerobat not Extra 300.

Fortunately, some operators seem happy to assess before AUPRT & for successful candidates to then do the course.

I predict a backlog of some sort - unless AUPRT FIs increase. Aero Schools are going to be inundated. Lotta wannabes out there...brace brace brace!

All that said - of course the training is good. Just please keep the cost down. We’re not all silver spooned darlings.

It depends. They obviously make sure you learn the maneuvers which are mandated by A-UPRT curriculum first. Then in case you happen to be done with the mandatory stuff in less than 3 hours you might get some extra flying on top of that, but formation flying is definitely not something they normally do as a part of A-UPRT course. So, if you're lucky you might get it.

Cancelled my AUPRT. In wake of Flybe & Loganair having a direct recruiting line for ex-Flybe staff I don’t see the point for sometime (live in Scotland).

Aviation correction coming up? Covid-19. And Grant Shapp announcing today (allegedly? Posturing?) that UK will leave EASA.

Big mistake. Get your qualification and start applying. We're definitely not experiencing a positive trend, but at the beginning you have to try every possible opportunity you may have and go ahead with it. Sitting back is not going to take you anywhere.
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Not here in Scotland.

Loganair announced hot line for Flybe crew only recruitment & those of us who had November's Assessment Day cancelled are still waiting - as are those actually selected in October for TRs in January. Latest HR email (last week) they want TR ATR crew.

Eastern want 1000H "experienced FOs".

BA HR email gone out too re situation & how crews might help.

I'll save the cash by keeping the ME IR going.

Maybe Independence will help 😇: staying within EASA contrary to UK Gov. announcement re UK leaving EASA.

Unless "continent" is more competitive than UK right now?

Hi. I meant that the hiring situation up here is not good for the forseeable future - according to the Loganair HR email a fortnight ago. They are focussing on ATR rated crews and now the Flybe hotline.

The market is not competitive here unless you are already Type Rated. And just to add fun to it all we’ve an election due by 6th May 2021 which if the SNP wins will for sure (understandably) result in push for IndyRef2.

It is part and parcel of FTE JEREZ (f)ATPL / MPL (dormant) courses on their T67 / ROBIN, and has been for a number of years.
You don’t have to have been a “fast jet skygod” to deliver this part of the syllabus. Although given the degrading (aka watering down) of majority of training since CAP509, it would be true to say ex A2 instructors will be in the majority of competent FIs able to deliver it.