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BravoAlphaWhiskey 20th Aug 2019 19:23


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10550044)
So nothing is good or bad? Reading last years forum it would seem most were called on one day.

It's hard to tell. Last year I got the 'thanks but no thanks' email about a month after the calls started coming in.
And some others got the invite weeks after the first set of calls went out...

Until you get rejected you're still in the game!

Vick82451 20th Aug 2019 19:24

Not precisely. Some were called actually quite late. When they even had already given up. Better be optimistic here.

Vick82451 20th Aug 2019 19:30

There was also a part in their page that said they will keep the applications for a specified period of time for future purposes. Meaning there is still a chance even for those with the "no thanks email". Even the slightest chance does count you know.

abizmalll 20th Aug 2019 20:37

Well, I did well with the RAF CBAT so I suppose that's a good alternative. If I don't hear anything

gordonquinn 21st Aug 2019 10:19

Rejection for me, 3rd time trying - shame we can't even see the test results, not sure how close I have ever been, bit deflating to not know.

ComplyWithMe 21st Aug 2019 12:51


Originally Posted by PMG88 (Post 10549988)
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Certainly not disheartened my friend! I know where I went wrong and il be fully prepared for next year's opportunity! As you say, il keep plugging away with the modular training!
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Good luck to you also.

That’s really good! Unfortunately I’m not actuallytoo sure where I went wrong as I felt I got on very well in all aspects. Verbal reasoning aside. 🤣

I honest don’t know how I could have done more aside from maybe be a little younger 🤣🤣

best of luck to the rest of you! 😀😀

Eviation 21st Aug 2019 13:29

Received a call today, for anyone still eagerly awaiting calls they are still in the process. Set for 10th September assessment day.

elfly 21st Aug 2019 13:41

Hi guys,
Do you know approximatley how many candidates we were at the first stage of the online-preselections and how many are to be called for the interview stage in Dublin?

owenc 21st Aug 2019 17:17

Still nothing. Not sure what to think of that.

aakkt 21st Aug 2019 17:25

For those who received the "thanks but no thanks" email: does the portal still read 'invite to preselection online tests' or something else?

mboqseif 21st Aug 2019 17:37

For those waiting (including me!!), previously the airline has kept people in reserve on previous versions. They may not have been in the top ten for example but may have been number eleven and were called if one of the top ten couldn’t make it to the interviews or dropped out so don’t worry too much yet. Good luck though ��

Petehen 21st Aug 2019 18:20

Do you think that they're calling people on specific days related to the day people will be assessed? If they sent out a mass rejection email then the others would automatically know they've made it thruough. Because the assessments will take place over a two week period, some would gain an advantage by having more time to prepare.
In my view it is fairer to inform people over a two week period with subsequent announcement days relating to subsequent assessment days.

Just a thought...

Flyinghigh54674 21st Aug 2019 22:18

So are people receiving the good and bad news?

owenc 22nd Aug 2019 09:25

Just received the rejection email. No reason as to why. Would be nice to know why. Was it my video? Was it a test? What was it?

I wish they would’ve emailed us all at once on the same day instead of getting our hopes up and stressing us out!

I was a nervous wreck over the past few days, sitting waiting on a phone call and turning my email alerts off. :ugh:

ComplyWithMe 22nd Aug 2019 09:29


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10551476)
Just received the rejection email. No reason as to why.

i wish they would’ve emailed us all at once on the same day instead of getting our hopes up and stressing us out!

I was a nervous wreck over the past few days. :ugh:

really sorry 😐 yea I was so disappointed when I got the mail but I’d hate if I was left waiting to find out the same news eventually. It’s a shame they don’t tell us. However (not to be rocking the boat and I don’t have intentions of doing this) under the new GDPR rules I’m pretty sure that you can request any information about you documented by an organisation. So if they have noted something about your application I wonder are you privi to that?

owenc 22nd Aug 2019 09:30

I will try to ask, I won’t push it though. The video was definitely something I felt anxious about, the personality test and the compass (?) test. I couldn’t get my head around that one.

Shows how hard it is to get on to this, the fact that we can’t even get on to the Assessment Day!

Not sure where to go now regarding Pilot. I don’t have £100,000 to pay.

tomysth 22nd Aug 2019 10:02

Still no call here.... at this point I'd just like to know if its a no

owenc 22nd Aug 2019 10:06


Originally Posted by ComplyWithMe (Post 10550691)


That’s really good! Unfortunately I’m not actuallytoo sure where I went wrong as I felt I got on very well in all aspects. Verbal reasoning aside. 🤣

I honest don’t know how I could have done more aside from maybe be a little younger 🤣🤣

best of luck to the rest of you! 😀😀

I agree. It would be good if those who got through could tell us how they performed on the tests so we can see what sort of “boundary” the airline aims for score wise.

Eviation 22nd Aug 2019 10:51


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10551519)

I agree. It would be good if those who got through could tell us how they performed on the tests so we can see what sort of “boundary” the airline aims for score wise.

I got through and felt I didn't perform very well in the assessment. For the video assessment I skipped a question by accident and my application was deemed void but I had to get Aer Lingus to re-activate my application portal. Struggled with the dots aptitude question but found the test overall very fair. There was no room for trying to trick the personality test as questions were asked in numerous ways. I must note I only answered 25 of the verbal reasoning questions also as I felt I approached it in the wrong way. Hope this helps with your query.

rachiffer 22nd Aug 2019 10:53


Originally Posted by Manos (Post 10550952)
Hi all!

Is there anybody who lives in Germany and got the precious invitation for the assessment center?

I am trying to figure out how to obtain this Ishihara Vission certificate. Google does not seem to know anything apart from some online tests.

Thanks!

I live in N. Ireland - I asked my optician and they have said I need to have another eye test, at which point they will give me a letter confirming everything is ok re Ishihara. They had never heard of certificates?

owenc 22nd Aug 2019 12:41


Originally Posted by Eviation (Post 10551568)
I got through and felt I didn't perform very well in the assessment. For the video assessment I skipped a question by accident and my application was deemed void but I had to get Aer Lingus to re-activate my application portal. Struggled with the dots aptitude question but found the test overall very fair. There was no room for trying to trick the personality test as questions were asked in numerous ways. I must note I only answered 25 of the verbal reasoning questions also as I felt I approached it in the wrong way. Hope this helps with your query.

hmmm, so I wonder what the difference was then?

GPMC 22nd Aug 2019 12:57

Still heard nothing but the fact that people are still receiving rejection emails does not give me great hope. I would imagine all successful candidates have heard by now. For those who still haven’t heard, we could be in a back up pool, in event people pull out of interview etc.

parkfell 22nd Aug 2019 13:23


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10551483)
I will try to ask, I won’t push it though. The video was definitely something I felt anxious about, the personality test and the compass (?) test. I couldn’t get my head around that one.

Shows how hard it is to get on to this, the fact that we can’t even get on to the Assessment Day!

Not sure where to go now regarding Pilot. I don’t have £100,000 to pay.

Do not despair. There is always the modular route. I went down a similar route prior to JAR/EASA ~ the 700 hour, self improver route under the UK CAA. I was fortunate in that I was working full time on shifts, and found the time to study for the written exams over a period of 8 months. No need to go on any formal approved courses. Simply apply for the exams. Sandy Thomson & Pete Lyons, then at Booker, did a 4 week intense brush up course. Legends in their own lifetimes.

So save up ~ Class one medical: PPL first; EASA exams; hour building; modular CPL/IR; MCC.

What the modular route demonstrates is a determination to succeed through your hard work and perseverance. Something, I would suggest, a prospective employer will recognise as an admirable quality. A passion for hard work; pass the papers first time with high marks. Flying ~ no retakes. Team player with a positive MCC report.

Do this, and you will realise your dreams.

ComplyWithMe 22nd Aug 2019 13:35


Originally Posted by parkfell (Post 10551707)

Do not despair. There is always the modular route. I went down a similar route prior to JAR/EASA ~ the 700 hour, self improver route under the UK CAA. I was fortunate in that I was working full time on shifts, and found the time to study for the written exams over a period of 8 months. No need to go on any formal approved courses. Simply apply for the exams. Sandy Thomson & Pete Lyons, then at Booker, did a 4 week intense brush up course. Legends in their own lifetimes.

So save up ~ Class one medical: PPL first; EASA exams; hour building; modular CPL/IR; MCC.

What the modular route demonstrates is a determination to succeed through your hard work and perseverance. Something, I would suggest, a prospective employer will recognise as an admirable quality. A passion for hard work; pass the papers first time with high marks. Flying ~ no retakes. Team player with a positive MCC report.

Do this, and you will realise your dreams.

Thanks for your positive post. Much appreciated 😀 however I think you need to do the approved courses for ATPLs or else you can’t sit the exams.

owenc 22nd Aug 2019 13:37


Originally Posted by GPMC (Post 10551687)
Still heard nothing but the fact that people are still receiving rejection emails does not give me great hope. I would imagine all successful candidates have heard by now. For those who still haven’t heard, we could be in a back up pool, in event people pull out of interview etc.

Thought that myself yesterday. Pity it’s so cutthroat. I’m sure some who were rejected still got decent scores.

It will be interesting to see if any of the finalists are pilots children.

TallyVisualIn 22nd Aug 2019 13:50

Phone call recieved
 
Chaps, I just received the phone inviting me to the next stage a few minutes ago! Wonderful news, however the timing couldn't have been worse as I've just accepted another job offer elsewhere!!! Bloody typical!

So I've had to withdraw my candidacy.

Gutted to day the least. However, hopefully that means there's now an extra place open for someone else! Heads up all!

.... bloody gutted though , this was my second application, didn't get an invite last time! TYPICAL !

SliabhLuachra 22nd Aug 2019 13:56


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10551714)


Thought that myself yesterday. Pity it’s so cutthroat. I’m sure some who were rejected still got decent scores.

It will be interesting to see if any of the finalists are pilots children.

dont despair - I know somebody who got a phone call at lunchtime today! Calls will take the whole week to get through - also people may pull out in which case you could get a call in a few weeks (last year someone on this forum got called 1 month after the calls started).

Likewise rejection emails are probably being sent in batches and will be finished by Friday, presumably. Who knows for sure though!

parkfell 22nd Aug 2019 14:03


Originally Posted by ComplyWithMe (Post 10551712)


Thanks for your positive post. Much appreciated 😀 however I think you need to do the approved courses for ATPLs or else you can’t sit the exams.

Yes, you do need to sign up with an ATO for the writtens. Distance learning can work well, with at least 10% (?) actually attending formal groundschool classroom. Navigation & Performance facilitated with 'talk and chalk'.
Learn the material, then exam practice using a question bank. Understand it: learn the logic: and keep asking WHY !

ComplyWithMe 22nd Aug 2019 14:04


Originally Posted by parkfell (Post 10551737)

Yes, you do need to sign up with an ATO for the writtens. Distance learning can work well, with at least 10% (?) actually attending formal groundschool classroom. Navigation & Performance facilitated with 'talk and chalk'.
Learn the material, then exam practice using a question bank. Understand it: learn the logic: and keep asking WHY !

thanks a million! Nice bit of positivity! 😀👩*✈️

shamrock_f22 22nd Aug 2019 14:08

How long after the phone call until people got their confirmation email through? It was pretty instant last time, wondering whether the delay is to be expected this time.

GPF18 22nd Aug 2019 18:10

Got mine the same day, although I called in the morning and it was close to 5pm.

charliedelap148 23rd Aug 2019 00:11

Does anyone have the number they were contacted on? I have a missed call from the 20th and no rejection email yet and I hate to think I’ve missed it!

NotSpeedbird 23rd Aug 2019 06:16

First Post
 
Hey all!

Congratulations to all those successful, wasn’t expecting to be one of them but hey! Whadyaknow hah. If you never try...

As for them not saying where others may potentially have slipped up on the tests, they’re unlikely
to answer. Aside from this giving an unfair advantage next year, it opens them up to litigation or complaint. Additionally, if it was the personality test you failed on, the temptation would be to fake the responses next time.

I vaguely remember only getting about 27 done on the verbal reasoning... over level 100 on the rocket one. Thought I’d completely butchered the compass test ... Don’t get me started on the interview hah...

For anyone in London - Ishihara?! Where do I get it done?? Seems a few of us have no idea how to get the certificate...

And I don’t suppose there’s a way to avoid the £25 charge on the DBS? XD. My last one just expired the other week dangit! :P.

thisishomebrand 23rd Aug 2019 09:26

The Ishihara test is the colour blind test isn’t it? I think any aviation medical examiner should be able to help with it. I have used Heathrow Medicals for my Medicals including eye tests before, but they are on the more expensive side.

rachiffer 23rd Aug 2019 09:51


Originally Posted by NotSpeedbird (Post 10552198)
Hey all!

Congratulations to all those successful, wasn’t expecting to be one of them but hey! Whadyaknow hah. If you never try...

As for them not saying where others may potentially have slipped up on the tests, they’re unlikely
to answer. Aside from this giving an unfair advantage next year, it opens them up to litigation or complaint. Additionally, if it was the personality test you failed on, the temptation would be to fake the responses next time.

I vaguely remember only getting about 27 done on the verbal reasoning... over level 100 on the rocket one. Thought I’d completely butchered the compass test ... Don’t get me started on the interview hah...

For anyone in London - Ishihara?! Where do I get it done?? Seems a few of us have no idea how to get the certificate...

And I don’t suppose there’s a way to avoid the £25 charge on the DBS? XD. My last one just expired the other week dangit! :P.

My local Opticians (Specsavers) said they would issue me a signed letter if I requested it as part of an eye test - should hopefully keep costs down :) you can also usually find money off vouchers online.

GPMC 23rd Aug 2019 10:42

Got a call yesterday afternoon myself with dates on offer between 9th and 20th September. My surname begins with D so I am unsure what order they are doing them in. Regardless, it is probably a clean sheet again for the next round irrespective of how we did in the tests. Good luck to those still waiting on a contact and best wishes to everyone already invited.

vermont 23rd Aug 2019 11:54

Failed, shouldn't have bothered applying, especially since it took away from my vacation!

Planegame 23rd Aug 2019 12:54

Well done to everyone that got through and wishing you all the best for your next stage. I got my rejection email this morning. To the others in my situation least we tried hey and all the best for the future x

KingAutismo 23rd Aug 2019 13:00

What do you mean you shouldn't have replied? You value your holiday more than having an unmatched opportunity to start a dream career? I had to create an account here just for this comment but my god, I'd give up the next 10 years of holidays all together instantly to make it onto this program.

owenc 23rd Aug 2019 13:43

Just don’t think a couple of Psychometric Tests can ascertain someone’s ability to fly a Commercial Jet accurately.

There must be a better way for doing these tests.


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