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Slow Progress 17th Jul 2019 17:36


Originally Posted by Nick93 (Post 10521010)
Hi everyone!

hope everything went well for you guys! I was wondering, how many questions did you guys get through on the verbal reasoning? There were 49 questions and I got through 27... i know they say to expect to not finish them all, but still seems pretty low to me... thanks!

I think I had lower than you. I would say verbal reasoning was the most difficult.

Fab737 17th Jul 2019 17:46


Originally Posted by Nick93 (Post 10521010)
Hi everyone!

hope everything went well for you guys! I was wondering, how many questions did you guys get through on the verbal reasoning? There were 49 questions and I got through 27... i know they say to expect to not finish them all, but still seems pretty low to me... thanks!

Hi Nick, I think I got to the same point as you did. You are not alone. Let's wait and see.

plane_777 17th Jul 2019 22:14

Thanks.
Got it sorted and submitted at like 3am.
Hope my answer made sense and I didn't look too fatigued!

ComplyWithMe 17th Jul 2019 23:04


Originally Posted by JamesA320 (Post 10520986)
I submitted at 5.10 Irish time , would you say I'm ruled out ? Issues were due to very slow video upload speed and had emailed them before 5 to let them know I would be late, would you say I have no chance now ?! Honest answers please lol

i would HIGHLY doubt it! What you have to remember is that cut-e are coordinating the assessments and it’s in their best interests that they get as many applications who completed the process through as Aer lingus are employing them to do it!

Also the deadline for the original application went past the 4pm deadline on their website so don’t worry! Kick back the feet for the next six weeks lol

Disco Penguin 18th Jul 2019 07:59

How far did people get in "Complex Control" ? I got to about level 150. Not great but probably an average effort.

Disco Penguin 18th Jul 2019 07:59


Originally Posted by Slow Progress (Post 10521050)


I think I had lower than you. I would say verbal reasoning was the most difficult.

I was about the same, 25-27 questions. Can't remember exactly.

Slow Progress 18th Jul 2019 08:14

Only time will tell now. I did my best and that is all we can do. If nothing else it is good experience.

If we don't get through this time we will achieve our dreams eventually. Okay that is my positive post for the day!

ZephyrGCT 18th Jul 2019 08:40


Originally Posted by Disco Penguin (Post 10521542)
How far did people get in "Complex Control" ? I got to about level 150. Not great but probably an average effort.

That sounds impressive! I crashed once and only managed Level 113 so 150 sounds well above average I'd say.

Disco Penguin 18th Jul 2019 08:42


Originally Posted by ZephyrGCT (Post 10521582)
That sounds impressive! I crashed once and only managed Level 113 so 150 sounds well above average I'd say.

I made it far, but I crashed multiple times unfortunately. I reckon it's better to crash less, than cover more distance.

ZephyrGCT 18th Jul 2019 08:48


Originally Posted by Disco Penguin (Post 10521584)
I made it far, but I crashed multiple times unfortunately. I reckon it's better to crash less, than cover more distance.

It's hard to know, now that I've finished I keep overanalysing everything and I know its going to be like that for the next 6 weeks!... Just need to try and forget about it for a while...

Best of luck everyone, the wait has officially started!

Disco Penguin 18th Jul 2019 09:45


Originally Posted by ZephyrGCT (Post 10521588)
It's hard to know, now that I've finished I keep overanalysing everything and I know its going to be like that for the next 6 weeks!... Just need to try and forget about it for a while...

Best of luck everyone, the wait has officially started!

Yes, great advice to be fair.

BigBlueBall 18th Jul 2019 09:55

Can somebody remind what the different stages are before the lucky few are selected.

Stage 1 was the registration
Stage 2 was the online assessments & video interview.

Is the Assessment Centre in Dublin next or are there other stages before and after that?

ZephyrGCT 18th Jul 2019 10:10


Originally Posted by BigBlueBall (Post 10521662)
Can somebody remind what the different stages are before the lucky few are selected.

Stage 1 was the registration
Stage 2 was the online assessments & video interview.

Is the Assessment Centre in Dublin next or are there other stages before and after that?

Going by last year, the next stage is a day long assessment centre in Dublin, between the 9th - 20th September. Half the people were sent home at lunchtime and the other half (approx - varied each day) got an interview in the afternoon. About 2-3 weeks after this was the psychometric interviews followed by a Class 1 medical.

BigBlueBall 18th Jul 2019 10:16


Originally Posted by ZephyrGCT (Post 10521676)
Going by last year, the next stage is a day long assessment centre in Dublin, between the 9th - 20th September. Half the people were sent home at lunchtime and the other half (approx - varied each day) got an interview in the afternoon. About 2-3 weeks after this was the psychometric interviews followed by a Class 1 medical.

Great thanks for that.

Do we have any idea approx how many people get invited to the assessment centre?

Apologies if this info has already been posted.

ZephyrGCT 18th Jul 2019 11:30


Originally Posted by BigBlueBall (Post 10521682)
Great thanks for that.

Do we have any idea approx how many people get invited to the assessment centre?

Apologies if this info has already been posted.

I think it was around 234 ish

Rezh12 18th Jul 2019 13:48


Originally Posted by NG737800 (Post 10516884)
Good luck to all of you! :)

@Rezh12, what type of question did they ask you in the questionnaire?

Did you complete the second section yet? :) Maybe you can let us all know what we have to expect! How was the video interview?

Sandra

Sorry mate! I've been really busy this last week and didn't have time to browse the forums (graduating tommorow so it's been a nightmare preparing!)

​​​​OK so I've done everything last Sunday, the video interview are just normal questions that you'd get when being interviewed by any company (ie why aer lingus).

With the assessment, its definitely one of the hardest entry assessments I've done (done some over the years not just for pilot positions but engineer too).
And as I was writing this is just realised the deadline is now done... I'm just going to post this as it is :D

​​​​​​Does anyone else's application still say invite to pre selection?

plane_777 18th Jul 2019 16:16

Question regarding the on-the day (pre-lunch) assessments, were they identical to the ones we have completed online, right down to the personality questionnaire, or were they different?

pjharb 19th Jul 2019 10:16

When I went through the process back in 2016, I didn't have to redo the online assessments... I guess they only ask those who did really well online to redo them on the day?

Pre-lunch assessments:

1) "Panel Exercise" - not sure if they're still doing this.. you're grouped in 3s and are each given 2-3 random questions to ask/answer each other. One of my questions was about drones. You're marked by two staff members. Not sure of the point of that exercise...

2) Group Exercise - the usual.

NG737800 22nd Jul 2019 09:05

Hello pjharb, thank you so much! Could you give us some more details on the assessments? What follows after lunch, and also on the second day? Thanks!

FuturePilot_123 22nd Jul 2019 13:56

Anyone heard back yet?


MrGG 22nd Jul 2019 14:14

You won’t hear anything for at least a month, most likely beginning of September.

TXTom 22nd Jul 2019 14:28

It'll probably be a few weeks before anyone hears anything. I'd expect no sooner than mid-August. Last year they also didn't reach out to people who weren't selected, so it's a little stressful wondering for a few days if they'll contact you or not.

But it also seemed different this year; the announcement of the program was quieter, the UI for the assessments was different (better in my opinion), so maybe they've made some changes. I'd like to think that throwing together a generic email to send out to people who didn't make it should be fairly straightforward.

I imagine given the program wasn't around for a fair few years that they may be kind of relearning how to run something like this.

parkfell 26th Jul 2019 06:37


Originally Posted by TXTom (Post 10525063)
It'll probably be a few weeks before anyone hears anything. I'd expect no sooner than mid-August. Last year they also didn't reach out to people who weren't selected, so it's a little stressful wondering for a few days if they'll contact you or not.

But it also seemed different this year; the announcement of the program was quieter, the UI for the assessments was different (better in my opinion), so maybe they've made some changes. I'd like to think that throwing together a generic email to send out to people who didn't make it should be fairly straightforward.

I imagine given the program wasn't around for a fair few years that they may be kind of relearning how to run something like this.

A figure of 8,000 has been mentioned as the number who initially applied in the previous recruitment process. I assume not everyone was invited to participate in the on line testing & on line interview stages.
Q: how many got invited for the group exercises and face to face interviews, to select 18 lucky people to train.

shamrock_f22 26th Jul 2019 07:20


Originally Posted by parkfell (Post 10528578)


A figure of 8,000 has been mentioned as the number who initially applied in the previous recruitment process. I assume not everyone was invited to participate in the on line testing & on line interview stages.
Q: how many got invited for the group exercises and face to face interviews, to select 18 lucky people to train.

From what I recall they said only a hundred or so of us were called for the face to face stage. Perhaps more. None of that really matters to be honest, just focus on the goal ahead.

plane_777 27th Jul 2019 03:03

I think they are only recruiting 12 this year, not 18

future_pilot_di 1st Aug 2019 16:43

Online assesment
 
Hey guys

I've not applied this year, as doing A levels to enable me to apply to this program ( and others). But anyhow I was wondering does anyone have any tips for the online assessments; particularly the maths assessment? What areas are covered? etc, just so that I can prepare for when the time comes and improve my maths!

Dan

Vick82451 1st Aug 2019 22:27

Actually guys they are quite fair. If you just followed their rules in the online test you have no reason to panic. Good luck to you all .Best of wishes

AKorol 2nd Aug 2019 05:30

Hi Dan,

Maths I really wouldn't worry about, it was just simple area and distance calculations, no complex formulas needed (I think you were required to calculate the volume of a cylinder and that was about the most complicated formula). I've done a few psychometric tests now and what was difficult (for myself at least) was the verbal reasoning (barely got past halfway) in comparison to previous tests. At the end of the day everyone is different, I've never really struggled with anything logical/spatial or mathematical, so know your strengths/weaknesses (and work on your weaknesses!) and you'll be better prepared IMO,

Andrew

future_pilot_di 6th Aug 2019 22:27


Originally Posted by AKorol (Post 10534578)
Hi Dan,

Maths I really wouldn't worry about, it was just simple area and distance calculations, no complex formulas needed (I think you were required to calculate the volume of a cylinder and that was about the most complicated formula). I've done a few psychometric tests now and what was difficult (for myself at least) was the verbal reasoning (barely got past halfway) in comparison to previous tests. At the end of the day everyone is different, I've never really struggled with anything logical/spatial or mathematical, so know your strengths/weaknesses (and work on your weaknesses!) and you'll be better prepared IMO,

Andrew

Hi,

Thanks for a quite detailed response andrew! All the best with your application. :)

PPRuNeUser0207 8th Aug 2019 00:51

The long night (and wait) continues...

Anyone preparing in anticipation of an invite? :ugh:

Cheers,
JM.

abizmalll 8th Aug 2019 11:19

Anyone heard back from them, or know when to expect a response?

Not that I'm expecting an invite, I ballsed up the video interview and logic test. Maybe still possible if I did well in the others.

NG737800 8th Aug 2019 11:40

What makes you think you "ballsed up" the interview? I am sure this is just personal perception...sure you did well.

PPRuNeUser0207 8th Aug 2019 13:53


Originally Posted by abizmalll (Post 10540018)
Anyone heard back from them, or know when to expect a response?

Not that I'm expecting an invite, I ballsed up the video interview and logic test. Maybe still possible if I did well in the others.

It's in the interest of cut-e to put as many through as possible. I'm sure you'll be grand. Positive vibes! :)

PMG88 8th Aug 2019 18:54

Assume the best until the worst is confirmed everyone! It's important to stay positive, and to prepare yourself for every eventuality! If this doesn't work out, there will be another year to have a go! In the mean time just keep on flying and working towards your goal!
​​​​​​
Just keep preparing incase you get that all important phone call! If I get the opportunity, il be as ready as I can be!

"Fail to prepare, then prepare to fail"

Good luck everyone, hopefully we will start to have some movement in the coming weeks!

owenc 8th Aug 2019 20:18

Would like to hear soon.

Plane123 9th Aug 2019 05:33

Anyone knows if they will take in a non European passport holder? Like a Singaporean?

thisishomebrand 9th Aug 2019 09:13

One of the requirements was to have an EU passport, so don't think they will sponsor you for this program.

nala06 9th Aug 2019 09:14


Originally Posted by Plane123 (Post 10540588)
Anyone knows if they will take in a non European passport holder? Like a Singaporean?

It doesn’t actually say that you need an EU passport it is just that you are eligible to live and work permanently in the EU and have an up-to-date unrestricted worldwide passport.

i have copied the criteria below:

Essential criteria for application

  • 18 years of age on or before 1st January 2019
  • Fluent in written and spoken English
  • Eligible to live and work permanently in the EU
  • Up-to-date unrestricted worldwide passport
  • Able to pass an airport security vetting procedure, including a five-year background check*
  • Two verifiable references
  • Able to obtain an EASA / IAA issued Class 1 Medical, including successfully passing a colour blindness test. Please refer to www.iaa.ie prior to application to ensure you can meet all medical requirements in line with eyesight/colour blindness limitations
*If you are a not an Irish citizen, you will require a current police disclosure certificate from your home country if successful

*If you have resided outside the Republic of Ireland for six months or more, you will also require a current police disclosure certificate from that country/countries


abizmalll 9th Aug 2019 09:35


Originally Posted by thisishomebrand (Post 10540712)
One of the requirements was to have an EU passport, so don't think they will sponsor you for this program.

I wonder what the situation will be for UK applicants post-Brexit. We'd still be able to live/work in Ireland under the CTA, unless something else would stop us.

HighBallInLow 9th Aug 2019 14:06

I should think UK citizens should be fine post-Brexit. The CTA preceded Ireland's joining of the EU and EI has no non-Irish bases.


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