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Minotaur12 26th Dec 2017 00:14

Morning Ladies and Gentleman,
Im due to go and attend the CAE skills assessment early next year and was just wondering what to expect?! I have had a reasonable trawl through the forums to try and gather the information instead of coming to ask for help but was a little surprised that only L3 flight academy had some details up!

Id be grateful if those who have recently sat it could show a little comradeship and dish out some information then I can prepare as best as possible i.e. whats the failure rates? are the tests very difficult? advice on the group exercises? interview questions? pass marks on the maths and physics tests ... just generally anything no matter how big or small.

are you allowed a calculator in the physics exam?

Minotaur12 29th Dec 2017 23:45

what sort of things can you expect in the group exercise?

Thegreenmachine 30th Dec 2017 15:24

About 100 different scenarios, Google it.

Mine was something along the lines of....stranded on a mountain with 7 people, need to return to rendezvous point but one person has a broken leg and you have to pick 3 items to take with you from a list. Result not important, decision making, listening and engaging others might be.

Minotaur12 9th Jan 2018 17:25

thanks ever so much!!

anybody got any silly suggestions for how to remember series of numbers in the adapt test?

Kerkhove 9th Jan 2018 19:02

Hi everyone,
I have my 6 selection test next month... if it can help you, the school sent me this :

Some more information about the selection tests:

You will do the following tests spread over 2 days: English, Physics, ADAPT-test, personality questionnaire, personal interview and BFA (Basic Flying Assessment). The personality questionnaire can be completed at home before the selection test days. You will receive a separate e-mail with a web link a few days before your assessment days.

The results of your selection tests will be communicated afterwards by e-mail.

The payment of 400,00 for the selection process must be done on the first assessment day at our academy itself. You can do this by credit card (Bancontact/Mister Cash, VISA, Vpay, Maestro, and MasterCard), NOT in cash.



Physics test:

This is a written multiple choice test. You are allowed to bring a one line display calculator, with sin, cos and tan Calculators with memory are not allowed.

These are the important subjects:

Basic physics sizes (length, mass, angle, t, volume, speed, acceleration)

Units (meter, kilogram, second, amps)

Distance travelled, speed, acceleration

Weight, mass, density and volume

Newtons law, inertia, forces

Determination of centre of gravity

Work, energy, power (kinetic energy, pressure energy)

Thermometric scales: C, F, K

Pressure, density, t of a liquid or a gas

Perfect gases law, Boyle-Mariotte law, Gay-Lussac law, Daltons law

Change of state of a liquid/gas/solid

Basics of electricity: DC and AC current, tension, equivalent resistance, Ohm

Basics of magnetism: magnetic field, permanent magnet, lines of flux



Question Example:

A quantity of gas (p = 3 x 105 Pa, T=300K) is compressed until the half of its initial volume and is heated to 70C. What is the final gas pressure?

(Answer: P2= 6, 86 105Pa)

Determine the weight (in Newton) of a sphere that has a volume of 1,1 x 10-7 m3 and a density of 2,7 kg/dm3 (gravitation acceleration: 9.81m/s2)

(Answer: 2, 91x10-3)

3 resistances of 5Ω are placed in parallel. Find the value of a unique equivalent resistance.

(Answer: 1.67Ω)



English test:

This is a computer-based test which is focused on general English vocabulary.



Basic Flight Assessment:

This is an aptitude test which evaluates the basic skills required for flying, such as:

Handling skills

Multi-tasking

Co-ordination

It also assesses the learning curve and takes about 30 minutes. No preparation for this test is required.



ADAPT:

This is a computer based testing system which includes the following elements:

Progressive Maths - Maths questions which get progressively more difficult as the test progresses. Some of the topics covered include algebra, trigonometry, factorising quadratics and Speed/Distance/Time.

Progressive Physics - Physics questions which get progressively more difficult as the test progresses. Some of the topics covered by the test includes acceleration, relative speed and kinetic energy.

Cognitive - Assess a wide range of aptitudes including Working Memory, Perceptual Speed & Accuracy and Spatial Relationship Reasoning. This cognitive assessment is designed for Ab Initio candidates.

FAST - A multi-tasking and learning assessment made up of physical, cognitive and situational elements. The aim for the candidates is to prioritize and manage multiple activities and learn from previous experience to improve future performance.

Fixed Wing 1&2 - A conceptual flying task which aims to measure co-ordination and accuracy. The test works using a desktop joystick setup to navigate to waypoints around a designated route.

Co-ordination Assessment - This assessment is designed to test a candidate's hand eye co-ordination and dexterity. Using a joystick the candidate must aim to hold a ball in the center of a target circle whilst it tries to move away from the center.



Personal interview:
Your personal interview will partly be conducted in Dutch or French (if this is your mother tongue) and a part will be in English.

crip1808 9th Jan 2018 19:22

Hi Minotaur12,

I did my Stage 2 assessment before Xmas. There are a few different parts to the assessment, first is a maths and physics test. You are not allowed to have a calculator or phone for that matter, but they do provide you with a formula sheet which is useful. After that you have questions about sequences, rotating shapes, odd one out, memorising numbers. All fair easy questions. The harder parts are the hand-eye coordination tests. Have a look on Youtube at the ADAPT test, I wasn't sure what it was and struggled as it is quite intense, but watching the video will give you a really good idea of what to expect.

Minotaur12 10th Jan 2018 16:22

cheers guys! can I just ask what did they ask of you on the memory specific tests?

PilotHamza 24th Jan 2018 09:19

Glad I found this thread, going for my stage 2 assessment soon but couldn't find much on CAE :)

Logun94 19th Sep 2018 04:12

Can anyone whos done it here give a detailed explination of what to expect amd to share the outcome of thier assesment .Many thanks

Logun94 4th Oct 2018 09:39

Hi can anyone say if they know if the assessment is negatively marked at CAE ?

Parky1980 5th Jan 2019 11:03

CAE stage 2 assessment day
 
Hi guys and girls,

Anyone done a CAE stage 2 assessment day recently? Are you allowed a calculator in the maths and physics test, I was in the understanding you could, however an earlier post on here suggested otherwise?

In addition to this does the fixed wing test merely (I say merely, Im sure its still difficult) require you to fly or are there multi tasks, questions popping up etc too?

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

NESUNflyer 7th Jan 2019 12:45


Originally Posted by Parky1980 (Post 10352507)
Hi guys and girls,

Anyone done a CAE stage 2 assessment day recently? Are you allowed a calculator in the maths and physics test, I was in the understanding you could, however an earlier post on here suggested otherwise?

In addition to this does the fixed wing test merely (I say merely, Im sure its still difficult) require you to fly or are there multi tasks, questions popping up etc too?

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Good afternoon everybody! Does anyone have information regarding the calculator question as I am wondering the same thing too!? :rolleyes:

Bimstar 17th Jan 2019 21:22

Hello, did you ever find out the answer? Are you able to use a calculator at any point? Many thanks

Logun94 18th Jan 2019 06:01

Calculator is allowed for math and physics

Parky1980 27th Jan 2019 11:56

Can you confirm your maths?
 
Mate regarding the example math/physics questions in your post below, I get very similar answers but with different decimals and cant figure out why.

Did they provide the answers of did you and could you confirm the workings as its confusing me, I believe (with all respect given...its a very useful post) some of the answers may be slightly wrong?

thanks,

Parky1980




Originally Posted by Kerkhove (Post 10015431)
Hi everyone,
I have my 6 selection test next month... if it can help you, the school sent me this :

Some more information about the selection tests:

You will do the following tests spread over 2 days: English, Physics, ADAPT-test, personality questionnaire, personal interview and BFA (Basic Flying Assessment). The personality questionnaire can be completed at home before the selection test days. You will receive a separate e-mail with a web link a few days before your assessment days.

The results of your selection tests will be communicated afterwards by e-mail.

The payment of 400,00 for the selection process must be done on the first assessment day at our academy itself. You can do this by credit card (Bancontact/Mister Cash, VISA, Vpay, Maestro, and MasterCard), NOT in cash.



Physics test:

This is a written multiple choice test. You are allowed to bring a one line display calculator, with sin, cos and tan Calculators with memory are not allowed.

These are the important subjects:

Basic physics sizes (length, mass, angle, t, volume, speed, acceleration)

Units (meter, kilogram, second, amps)

Distance travelled, speed, acceleration

Weight, mass, density and volume

Newtons law, inertia, forces

Determination of centre of gravity

Work, energy, power (kinetic energy, pressure energy)

Thermometric scales: C, F, K

Pressure, density, t of a liquid or a gas

Perfect gases law, Boyle-Mariotte law, Gay-Lussac law, Daltons law

Change of state of a liquid/gas/solid

Basics of electricity: DC and AC current, tension, equivalent resistance, Ohm

Basics of magnetism: magnetic field, permanent magnet, lines of flux



Question Example:

A quantity of gas (p = 3 x 105 Pa, T=300K) is compressed until the half of its initial volume and is heated to 70C. What is the final gas pressure?

(Answer: P2= 6, 86 105Pa)

Determine the weight (in Newton) of a sphere that has a volume of 1,1 x 10-7 m3 and a density of 2,7 kg/dm3 (gravitation acceleration: 9.81m/s2)

(Answer: 2, 91x10-3)

3 resistances of 5Ω are placed in parallel. Find the value of a unique equivalent resistance.

(Answer: 1.67Ω)



English test:

This is a computer-based test which is focused on general English vocabulary.



Basic Flight Assessment:

This is an aptitude test which evaluates the basic skills required for flying, such as:

Handling skills

Multi-tasking

Co-ordination

It also assesses the learning curve and takes about 30 minutes. No preparation for this test is required.



ADAPT:

This is a computer based testing system which includes the following elements:

Progressive Maths - Maths questions which get progressively more difficult as the test progresses. Some of the topics covered include algebra, trigonometry, factorising quadratics and Speed/Distance/Time.

Progressive Physics - Physics questions which get progressively more difficult as the test progresses. Some of the topics covered by the test includes acceleration, relative speed and kinetic energy.

Cognitive - Assess a wide range of aptitudes including Working Memory, Perceptual Speed & Accuracy and Spatial Relationship Reasoning. This cognitive assessment is designed for Ab Initio candidates.

FAST - A multi-tasking and learning assessment made up of physical, cognitive and situational elements. The aim for the candidates is to prioritize and manage multiple activities and learn from previous experience to improve future performance.

Fixed Wing 1&2 - A conceptual flying task which aims to measure co-ordination and accuracy. The test works using a desktop joystick setup to navigate to waypoints around a designated route.

Co-ordination Assessment - This assessment is designed to test a candidate's hand eye co-ordination and dexterity. Using a joystick the candidate must aim to hold a ball in the center of a target circle whilst it tries to move away from the center.



Personal interview:
Your personal interview will partly be conducted in Dutch or French (if this is your mother tongue) and a part will be in English.


TobyP21 22nd Feb 2019 09:10

How did the assessment go? Ive got mine on the 29th of March and needless to say quite nervous. Im trying figure out the best way to prep, any advice would be extremely helpful, thanks!

Parky1980 22nd Feb 2019 19:53

Reply
 

You got a personal email address bud?



Originally Posted by TobyP21 (Post 10397328)
How did the assessment go? Ive got mine on the 29th of March and needless to say quite nervous. Im trying figure out the best way to prep, any advice would be extremely helpful, thanks!


Graveney 25th Feb 2019 08:00

Hi all, I have got mine in April 2019 - I've done the test at L3 also, does anyone have any tips of what is covered in the physics syllabus? Also does any one have any advice how to prepare best for fixed wing?

JackPerry 10th Mar 2019 11:56

I done my Stage 2 ADAPT test in March 2019. Here's what I would tell myself if I could go back in time, or tell someone else about to do it:
  • Don't be nervous - of course you will be - but everyone will be just as nervous as you!
  • You DO get a calculator for the maths test and the physics test. If you don't bring your own they give you one. If this is the case, don't wait until the test starts to try it out, find out where all the buttons are that you will need. This sounds like a pointless tip but they gave me a weird calculator that gave answers as fractions and you could only change it to integers and decimals with a very small inconspicuous button.
  • Use the calculator to your advantage as much as possible. If you are quick, you could try and use it for the numerical reasoning, but as this is measuring reaction time - i'm not recommending this, just throwing the idea out there :)
  • Take your time with the introductory pages of the test, there are a lot of pages but dont rush!. It's there to help you!. I heard a lot of people clicking through the introductory pages and there was a lot of helpful stuff on there, like specific examples of the questions yiu are about to get asked, and you are not timed on this, so try out the example question, so when the real one comes you are prepared
  • If you finish a test early, go back and check, you may have submitted a dumb answer! I did. Found it, corrected it. It was asking me to subtract a total fuel amount from an initial amount, NOT give the amount burnt. Go back and check.
  • They actually give you the equations! Don't pass this one up - write them down, re arrange them solving for different variables, e.g. speed=distance/time / fuel burn rate = fuel burnt / time write these down and solve for all three - so when a question comes just look to what you wrote down and plug in the numbers.
  • The "FAST" test is hard. No way around this one. Latest Pilot Jobs and PilotAptitudeTest have good practice software, but really you can practice as much as you want but it's about how you do on that day. But don't worry if you don't nail it, the test is to measure your capacity to learn, so you get two tries, I think its more about your ability to learn from what you got wrong on your first try. So without just giving away answers that might change, I'll say - Pay Attention! Nothing is not important enough!
    Spoiler
     
  • The fixed wing assessment is weirdly different from the FAST test you just took. There's no mental quick reaction times and quick thinking, but instead, you have to slowly, calmly keep your plane at a given altitude and a given speed and heading using the joystick and throttle. It's easy to let your mind wonder, so don't get cocky, the speed can get high, your altitude can drift, and you can't trim the plane, so you will have to monitor your very fine inputs on the joystick. Also just because your concentrating on your speed and altitude, make sure you're heading in the right direction... :rolleyes:
  • We got a chance to speak to a current student and get a tour, but not everyone took it. Dumb idea, take the tour!! Not only was it fun to see the place, we learnt so much about the course and what we might expect, and got to ask any questions we liked. And it did make a difference having a student do it as to not be intimidated. He was great.
Now I have my own question. I took the Stage 2 on Thursday and I am getting a mini-heart attack every time I get some random email... How long till I hear back?!? I'm going nuts!

If anyone has any questions about stage 2, post here I'll try to answer you :)

EAZY09 17th Mar 2019 20:25

CAE OXFORD STAGE 2 Assesment
 
Hi , i have a stage 2 assessment at Oxford in 2 weeks, if you have done it i was wondering how the layout of maths and physics is for example is it 4 option boxes that you have to tick or long answers, i have been preparing this week, i bought the CAE Oxford CBT Maths and Physics books as well as a ADAPT program from LatestpilotJobs for 50, i have noticed that all my results from ADAPT are above average however I'm stressing out because of Maths and Physics, i know that they are 30min each but do you maybe know all the topics that come up or are they random, because him working my ass off revising the CAE Interactive books of maths and physics and I'm sure that not everything will come up because its just too much. Cheers,


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