Thanks for answering the questions.

Be aware, there are only another 4-5 days before the application window closes for CTC.

Most airlines either fund courses or they don't, not some halfway house. This allows them to pick the best candidates who apply. Sure, there will potentially be better candidates who don't apply for self-sponsored courses, but the airline never gets to see them.

With EZY's offer of "we might guarantee a loan", it makes the whole issue of funding very transparent and potentially means candidates who have been offered places then can't accept them. With other airlines, they either wouldn't have applied in the first place or the finance would be provided.

This whole idea of "we'll wait and see who we get then decide on finance" is odd. Will they accept a "worse" candidate who can fund the course v one who can't? The public might not like the idea of their pilot being not the best candidate but the one who could pay.....

easyJet have proven themselves time and again to be about little other than maximising profit. Of course this is the nature of a business. Shareholder theory can only be taken so far though and there comes a time when the stakeholder theory proves itself a lot more. It's at times like these. BA and Aer Lingus demonstrated this very well. In the face of Brexit though I shouldn't expect any improvements with easyJet, they will be ruthless in securing every penny they can.

I agree about the halfway house, it would be funny if it weren't frustrating.

Unfortunately guys, a :mad: candidate with the money will get the job over a strong candidate without the funding.

The industry needs changing to entice the passionate people without the funds.
It angers me that the Kenyan government will fund the entire training for Kenyan nationals but the UK/US/CA governments won't do :mad:

For all the stick Africa gets, they have quite a few countries funding training. Oxford is overrun with Algerians ... all paid for by the airline/government with a decent allowance in too.

Anyway, unfortunately it doesn't look like things will change. We are falling over ourselves to apply to these 100k schemes ... why should they

I have to disagree with that. I was only asked one question about my financial background and my plans on how to finance the training in my EZY selection at CTC: Do you know yet how to fund the training? My answer: No, I will have to go and talk to a bank in case I make it to the programme. And I got accepted. (By CTC and EZY, not the bank unfortunately)

I think ECAM's point is that many without even a hope of funding aren't even applying. It is a sad truth about the industry that we are only getting the best of those that can afford it, not the best full stop.

This is partly why I have the utmost respect for airlines such as BA, Aer Lingus, Virgin etc as they remove the financial barrier when they know they do not have to. It says a lot about these companies.

Funny that Africa has been mentioned because I was thinking about he programmes over there the other day. One of the lads at the gliding club I fly from could probably get a passport through ancestry and with it a chance at one of the fully-funded programmes. Ironic that the more "developed" nations lag behind when it comes to this sort of thing.

Regarding little being asked about financing at interview, I think the point being made is that if you were selected and couldn't finance it, your place would ultimately go to someone who could. Whilst they may not weed out those who need airline financial backing at interview, ultimately those who require it are filtered out at the funding stage.

It'll be interesting to see if they'll make any changes next year after their huge informercial "documentary" is broadcasted to the public. Perhaps they may charge more after gaining more public interest...

I would expect just as much. It will create an increase in interest no doubt ... naturally there will be a % of these people who can find it themselves and so easyjet will have a larger pool to work from

I reckon it could go either way if I'm to be honest. A couple of years back there was a three-part series about BA of which a part of the third episode focused on the FPP. When the training cost of £84k was mentioned a lot of people on non-aviation forums thought it was hugely expensive and that's with an airline providing a guarantee.

Easyjet's three-part series will likely attract a fair bit of attention from the general public and the media and if it's found that they are not providing loan guarantees then I can see them getting a fair bit of flak. Wouldn't be surprised if some of it focused on their female scholarship and we've seen how identity politics has gone down with the public outside of aviation. I doubt I'll watch the series itself but it will be interesting to see the wider reaction to it.

Hey kalvb123, I recently sat the easyjet assessment with OAA. Unfortunately failed on the ball game and fixed wing. I was already at a disadvantage with only one hour flight simulation experience. Do you have any tips on theses? i will be starting a few flying lessons in the summer. very much appreciated.

I'm guessing the series is called "a very British Airline"?

Yep, that's the one.

L3CTS have announced that the Flybe MPL is opening this Monday.
https://www.l3airlineacademy.com/flybe

Annoyingly they haven't stated a price but we probably all know what it's going to be.

£94800, comprising of a £69k "training bond" and a £25800 MPL fee, interestingly the BBVA loan scheme is still listed as a potential source of funding. All of this for a job, which on the new Flybe contract, will pay about £30k per year, rising slowly in increments.

They do take modular folks though to their credit.

As for the Easyjet programme I think there are a few things to take into consideration when applying:
The odds of you getting a loan guarantee are somewhere between minimal and non-existent loan unless you're an internal applicant or a woman.
Many people have reported their conditional offer was changed significantly after they had accepted it.
Your first year of flying may be on a zero-hours contract where earnings may fluctuate significantly.

For those seeing "loan guarantee" and thinking this is like BA and Virgin Atlantic, think again.

Flybe is a great place to start your career if you've come through the modular route and/or have ~zero training debt. It's not the place to be with a 90,000+ loan hanging round your neck. Then again, Easyjet isn't a particularly good place to be in that situation either.....

Last day to apply with CTC! Best of luck to all who have applied.

The deadline is showing as midnight on the 30th of December 2017...

Hi guys,

I booked stage 2 assessment with oxford. Could you please recommend me how to get prepared for this assessment?