Flybe MPL 2017 with FTE Jerez
Thought I'd get the thread started for those who will be applying. Good luck.
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FTE vs CTC
Although this is expensive anyway can anyone genuinely tell me why CTC charge £93,000 for what appears to be the same course without food and accommodation. When FTE as a company despite trading mostly in Euros in a time of poor rates, gives the course for £89k WITH accommodation and board.
Is this simply CTC profiteering? The courses look identical and offer the same end result. I can't see why anyone would apply for Flybe MPL with CTC otherwise. Everyone should go for FTE! |
The thing is that you're starting at 29K GBP with an MPL qualifying you to fly on the Q400. The salary at flybe is steadily increasing to reach 49K GBP at year 10 (assuming you're still a SFO, which is very conservative). If you're lucky enough to upgrade as a captain after let's say 4 or 5 years, then you'll reach 60+ K GBP which is a lot more comfortable financially
If you're financing your studies with a mortgage, the classic rate is around 3+ %, so the first few years you'll be struggling to pay back anything on top of the interests. If you want to move to another airline, let's say Easyjet or Ryanair, you'll most likely be asked to pay another 20+ K GBP for a 320/737 type rating. Overall I think it's a lot safer to go on with another cadet scheme such as the EasyJet one, it may be a bit more expensive, but you'll be repaying your loan a lot faster (from the EasyJet salaries table, you'll be at 45K GBP at year 1 or 2 if in the UK). |
I don't like those planes
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Originally Posted by AA757
(Post 9667624)
If you want to move to another airline, let's say Easyjet or Ryanair, you'll most likely be asked to pay another 20+ K GBP for a 320/737 type rating.
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Word of warning - don't send your application on the pre-screen questions until you're ready to answer the questionnaire - there are 6 x max 500 word questions to answer and you have an ambitious 3 days to complete them from the time you submit the initial pre-screen application!
A tall order for an unemployed person, let alone if you work full time! Unfortunately a non-starter for me on that basis, good luck to anyone crunching out 3000 quality words in 3 days. |
Originally Posted by MaverickPrime
(Post 9668019)
IIRC, Flybe bond you for 3 years at £18k
do EK or QR even accept turbo prop hours??:ugh: |
Are there any current Flybe employees that can shed light on this scheme, and the company in general? Especially the salary / progression / lifestyle side of things considering the loan amount?
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Opportunities
So I completed the application for FTR today , yes whilst the 3000 or so words were painful it's nothing too challenging. Meanwhile I have had an email from CTC pursuing me about booking a selection day , I'm torn between 89k for a Q400 or 94k for potentially a 737/320 job and with a potential salary difference of 15k the decision certainly is not an easy one.
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Did you apply to CTC direct or through Generation easyJet? I still can't book a stage 2 for love nor money...keeps showing full!
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Originally Posted by Mike Dove
(Post 9669582)
So I completed the application for FTR today , yes whilst the 3000 or so words were painful it's nothing too challenging. Meanwhile I have had an email from CTC pursuing me about booking a selection day , I'm torn between 89k for a Q400 or 94k for potentially a 737/320 job and with a potential salary difference of 15k the decision certainly is not an easy one.
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Is there a system for cadets from this scheme to specify a base preference?
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When you start the TR, I'd imagine that is when they'd ask you where you would like to go.
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Hello everyone! I'm Vinny, I'm wondering if anyone is interested to apply for this airline scheme. I have applied for this position last day, is a bit interesting the new license MPL and I think is going to be growing up over the years. it's also a risk but I think Flybe is a good company to invest 89000 for the training.
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Originally Posted by Mike Dove
(Post 9669582)
I'm torn between 89k for a Q400 or 94k for potentially a 737/320 job and with a potential salary difference of 15k the decision certainly is not an easy one.
Most people I believe wait about 6 months between finishing CTC and securing a job so I guess at flybe you'd have made £14k in that time. Yes you won't be paid as much as a jet job would but you won't have to pay for your type rating either so for about 3 years you're making about the same amount of money. That's the way I see it, you have you're whole career ahead of you, what's a few years with a relatively secure turboprop job gonna do? I've known a few people who've done CTC and OAA and not been placed who've eventually gone to Aurigny - any job is a good job (except maybe p2f) :) |
Correct! I'm just trying to point out that there is a lot more to consider at an airline than the a/c type and top line salary.
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I flew for Flybe via a cadet scheme. They did sponsor me for effectively £18,900 which I paid through salary sacrifice. Bonded for the Q400 rating over 3 years. Happily paid BBVA (twice a month more than contracted), paid into pension scheme, able to save and enjoy my earnings.
Worked hard, peaking at 885hrs last year. Salary not the best in the industry but coupled with private healthcare, staff travel for various airlines around the world, uniform paid for, crew food, union recognition, no pay to fly nonsense and not physically transferring money over for a rating it's pretty good! Time to command is approx 3 years if you're happy to move to any base. The Q400 has such varied flying. Now fly an Airbus for a national flag carrier. Turboprop hours not restrictive in the market currently. |
Hello Driftdown89, so are you an ex cadet scheme with Flybe? That's pretty good tho, Flybe is a not bad company, how was structured the assessment? If I might asking.
Thanks so much |
Originally Posted by momo95
(Post 9668437)
Who wants to fly a Q400?
Rather ride a bike |
They are only taking 8, personally I'm not applying, however I think you would be bloody lucky to get a spot.
I think any talk about base, a/c, lifestyle, salary etc etc is extremely premature both in terms of the fact the odds are stacked against each individual applying given how few spaces there are and how many applicants there will be, but also in that this is only the start of your career, I think you should be prepared to fly anything anywhere at this early stage, beggars most certainly can't be choosers in this industry especially. |
Does anyone know how many candidates will be on the course.?
It reads to me tha there will be places offered to the top 8 at the end of the course .. But how many others are there...? Its a big risk of £89k if no place at the end of it. |
You may have misread.
There will be 8 people picked to do the course. They won't pick 20 then decide on 8 at the end of the course. |
Officer Kite is correct, only 8 will be selected to start in June. It doesn't sound like a promising figure, but if last year's assessment candidate numbers are anything to go by, then only 30-40 will be invited to attend the assessments in March.
Also, Although the website does state clearly that there will only be one assessment this time around, this was also the case last September, and the top candidates were given a personality questionnaire to complete. I'm guessing the top 6 performing candidates from this group were then offered positions with Flybe. Whether fte and Flybe choose to adopt this procedure this time around or not I don't know, but I'd be surprised if they just picked the 8 best candidates from one assessment day. |
Selection Numbers
Hi I was just wondering how you are aware of the numbers from last year? Had you heard this from someone who was involved in the process?
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I attended selection last year sharklet7 :)
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EZY_FR well that's a good enough source of information then. Lol
And if you don't mind me asking how did you get on? If unsuccessful are you applying again this year? |
I got to the assessment stage last year, but unfortunately I wasn't successful. I submitted my application last week :)
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Latest Pilot Jobs
I've applied for Flybe with FTE, does anyone know if the Verbal reasoning and Physics assessment for FTE Jerez is similar to the Medium or difficult level on Latest Pilot Jobs?
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Hi, I have left 1day more to check the answer I'm wandering how is structured the assessment and what question they may ask to us? Is logic or on the simulator?
Thanks so much |
Tomorrow's the last day for those who haven't applied yet! Best of luck to everyone :)
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Anyone get a phase 3 invite?
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Woke up to an invitation today. Heading down for Stage 3 on 08/03
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See you then lgwjrb!
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Havent't received anything yet.
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Just received my Invite for Stage 3 for March 9th
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me neither, but last time it took over a week to inform everybody, so hope is still up
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Very pleased to say i've been invited on the 9/03 :)
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I got an invite for the 7th.
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Assessment
Hi,
Does anyone have any idea of how long the assessment takes? Of those invited does your assessment start at 12? Thanks |
When I did it for the BA Cityflyer MPL, the assessment took about 4 hours.
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