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Hogos 4th Feb 2021 21:05

Words in a contract are very important, since they say "job guaranteed" and I pay an extra 5k, there must be something different.
If I don't get the job, for whatever reason, why should I pay more than the others who are only "considered" for the opportunity ?

Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP 5th Feb 2021 15:02

How can you call it a job? A job is when an employer pays you for your services. Paying somebody to sit in the front of their not so shiny jet is called exploitation. It would only happen in aviation. Can you imagine the rail unions allowing their members to pay for their training?

Rocket61 5th Feb 2021 17:56

Hogos

Hi, welcome in to the world, I hope you had a safe journey !

More seriously, I doubt that it would be written "job guaranteed" in the contract, but more "job guaranteed if position available". And if it is, I know nothing about Lettonian law, but not sure it will be a big issue... Why would you pay an extra 5k ? Because this is business based on the fact that some fools will always believe it and go for it.

Hogos 5th Feb 2021 18:06

Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP

If they give you an employment, of course they will pay you. If they don't, they're lying (which is not unlikely).
We can talk for years that paying for having the job is unfair and unethical, but if you sign a contract there will be a salary (I hope).
If it's a farce, then it's another matter.

Easy_flyer1992 9th Feb 2021 15:54

I am interested too, especially for the second option ì, i tried to ask what type of contract is offered and they answered that is a service agreement agency.
This should be really close to the ryanair program where new cadets are hired by third parties and not by Ryan.

hsilva7 11th Feb 2021 13:45

Hi guys.

During last week, I sent an e-mail requesting some information regarding the 35k option (Job guarantee). I keep forwarding the e-mail to them in order to get an answer and nothing...
does anyone is facing the same lack of response from their part?

Does anyone has more detailed information, regarding this offer?

Thanks..

Contact Approach 11th Feb 2021 13:47

Stop paying to work you morons!

hsilva7 11th Feb 2021 13:52

I cannot understand your perspective sometimes Contact Approach!

What do you want us to do?! Being seated on a chair, waiting for something suddenly to happen....

i am a newly cadet, with 210h total flight, if you have any suggestion for guys like me, that don't have any :mad: idea of what to do next, we would be very pleased!!!

Contact Approach 11th Feb 2021 14:26

What he said.
The sheer desperation / stupidly of those coming through currently is astounding. Go get a job that pays the bills instead of throwing away money you don’t have on a job that does not exist. Wait for the world to recover and then reassess your situation. It really isn’t that hard.

Easy_flyer1992 11th Feb 2021 14:42

They answered telling me that will be a agency contract, sincerely i do not know if worth it......but almost everywhere you have to pay, especially for low cost and it was the same also before covid 19.
Anyway need to be really careful!!

Easy_flyer1992 11th Feb 2021 17:00

All low cost act in this way, not only SmartLynx and cadets like me are out of “radar” of big companies that always are looking for experienced f/o min 500hr or have their own cadet program.
Ryan is doing the same thing.
I’m not going to work for free, that’s for sure, but at the begging sacrifices are required.
Anyway is just my point of view

Contact Approach 12th Feb 2021 06:47

What a load of rubbish.

Pinuz89 12th Feb 2021 21:02

I'm not defending this company, nor these agencies, but from what I heard here, it's not the classical P2F scheme, they actually are not asking money for doing hours.

I mean, this is absolutely not the right time to undergo a self-sponsored Type Rating, and I totally agree that accepting ridiculous salaries ruins the market, but this airline is not asking you to pay for flying, like many others.


Banana Joe 12th Feb 2021 21:34

What is it asking for then?

Pinuz89 13th Feb 2021 10:49

If they give you the job, they pay you.
P2F is the opposite, you pay for flying

Contact Approach 13th Feb 2021 12:09

In what other industry would you pay 35k for a job!?

Pinuz89 13th Feb 2021 19:44

You probably don't know what it means to open a business.
And you can probably break-even after years, being a lucky one.

Pinuz89 13th Feb 2021 20:01

Ultimately, there is a load of jobs, in particular in finance, where people need very expensive post graduation masters to get access at some positions (I'm talking about my country).

dirk85 13th Feb 2021 21:58

But the salaries would be more than decent from the start. Here you would struggle to break even, assuming you even get to fly, which is unlikely, since actual Smartlynx pilots are on unpaid leave themselves.
Smartlynx was together with Avion Express one of the worst airlines even during the good times, money wise, I don't even wanna think about the salaries post covid...

Pinuz89 13th Feb 2021 22:06

Yes I totally agree, infact i'm not defending this company, and I don't even know the actual salary


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