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EDDT 5th Jun 2017 18:02

VIE SZG PMI are all the bases they have right now.

Did they say anything about future bases?

md eleven 5th Jun 2017 18:15

No, not for the moment.

Looks like VIE will be the biggest base. SZG will only get one aircraft for now. I am not sure how many planes will go to PMI.

I made PMI my first choice. Who knows, if the unthinkable happens and I somehow manage to get through all of this they might, just might allow me to live there. :)

Fieldins 5th Jun 2017 18:57

when they asked for the base??

jturbop 5th Jun 2017 20:10

They didnt ask for my base preference.

Does anyone know the passrate for the DLR, some tests are REALLY difficult especially on level 3 and do you have to speak fluent german to succeed the selection for eurowings europe?

Fieldins 6th Jun 2017 08:10

Anyone is going for the sim screening?

md eleven 6th Jun 2017 08:53


Originally Posted by Fieldins (Post 9793622)
when they asked for the base??

When I filled in the online application (you know, the work history and flying hours document) on the last page I was asked which base I would prefer.
I had to rank them in order (there were three drop-down menus). I was given VIE, SZG and PMI.

I filled them in rather randomly and wrote to interpersonal that i would be happy living in any of those places. Not sure if they pass such information on to EW.

I guess the question of base will come up right at the end at the HR interview. Still a long road until then :)

Regarding pass-rate: No one knows for sure, but it seems about 90% - 95% fail the initial DLR test. The sim weeds out another 60% - 70%. I am not sure about the interview.

Chances are slim, but it is a chance and I will embrace it :)

Good luck to everyone.

MFhotdog 6th Jun 2017 09:24


Originally Posted by jturbop (Post 9793698)
They didnt ask for my base preference.

Does anyone know the passrate for the DLR, some tests are REALLY difficult especially on level 3 and do you have to speak fluent german to succeed the selection for eurowings europe?

Have a look at some older posts, there is a detailed pass rate listing.

Is here anyone who already passed the assessment? How long is the time between last stage and start date? What bases are offered? Will there be also bases in germany? Where will the rating take place?

Thanks for any info.

Inverted21 6th Jun 2017 11:13


Originally Posted by Fieldins (Post 9794128)
Anyone is going for the sim screening?

Hey, does this mean you got your date? I'm still on hold. Theys said probs until after the summerpeak.

ShineOn 6th Jun 2017 11:18

What are the backgrounds of people being invited to selection? How long between application and invite, thanks!

md eleven 6th Jun 2017 11:37

Don't know about others but here is my background:

I applied a few weeks ago and got the invitation last week. I have an (f)ATPL with 350 odd hours total. I have spent the last few years working in pilot training operating Level-D sims and as stand-in pilot (737/747).

I live in the UK but I am originally from Austria (ICAO engl 6 / German fluent) and I am probably one of the oldest applicants (41).

I am currently preparing for the DLR-GU test which is tough going.

Hope this helps.

Anyone else doing their DLR test in July?

Mlambin 6th Jun 2017 16:28

I have my DLR on the 20st of July.

Background: Finish school in 2010 and no jobs yet (I didn't really apply for few years because I lost faith but I am fully back on track now). 272h TT working in the hospitality in Brussels.

I got invited in February.

jturbop 7th Jun 2017 11:08

I have to go to Hamburg in July as well.

Does anyone have more information about a possible starting date for one of the 3 bases?

@Mlambin & mdeleven: do you speak german?

md eleven 7th Jun 2017 14:01

No starting date yet, but summer is a busy period so I would guess it won't be until autumn before they start training the new guys. Most airlines don't have the capacity during the busy summer months.

Yes, I speak German. It is my mother tongue.

Mlambin 7th Jun 2017 16:30

I don't speak German but I have bases. I am on a self-learning process. Not an easy language!

jturbop 7th Jun 2017 19:15

For me the same lol.

Does anyone know if we can expect the PPT on the DLR and how many ATPL questions can we expect approx?

Good luck for everyone!!

md eleven 8th Jun 2017 07:36

Tests for ready entries are
ATPL,MIC,OWT,PPT,RMS,ROT,SKT,VMC,Maths (apparently they are all acoustic), English and a psychological profiling test.

I don't know how many ATPL questions there are, but you are expected to do some maths; fuel flow, climb rate, scales, ISA deviation etc.
Then a lot of questions regarding air law, procedures (CAT1,2 approaches) and met questions.

Hope this helps.

xcocorb 11th Jun 2017 21:36


Originally Posted by Inverted21 (Post 9794318)
Hey, does this mean you got your date? I'm still on hold. Theys said probs until after the summerpeak.

I am also hoping to hear that someone got invited for the second round. This waiting seems to take forever, but hopefully it will all be worth it at the end.

Metterlich 19th Jun 2017 07:00

hi,

thats cool, would you give a feedback on your Assessment these days?

kimono1950 25th Jun 2017 10:31

Can anyone confirm the Cpt salary is 3200 net ?

If so, what an insult for the profession.

And you need to pass an astronaut assessment for this kind of :mad:

The guys in the mngt need a brain inspection !

dirk85 25th Jun 2017 12:13

It's the pilots applying for this company who need a brain inspection and medical revoked, not management.

Mlambin 26th Jun 2017 04:46

Better having that job and salary that being stuck like me in a bar after 7 years looking for a cockpit.

Life is not about pixels on your computer screen but happiness. Let me tell you that in my situation, flying and having 1500 would be an major improvement in my happiness!

flyhigh788 28th Jun 2017 13:55

If there is anyone of you who recently did the SIM as rated, please send me a PM:)

XanderFly 3rd Jul 2017 21:57

Why bother that much concerning the salary? F/o payment net is € 2.500, but additional sector pay is € 50. With 2-4 sectors each day, it is a very welcome addition to the standard salary.

Time81 3rd Jul 2017 22:38

Where did you get this from? Sector pay only applies for sectors exceeding the 284 ones which are already covered by base salary.

XanderFly 4th Jul 2017 13:49

Hi Time81, from the info package from Eurowings Europe, base Palma de Mallorca. 284 sectors should be 205, if I read the package:

- The employee is only entitled to be paid additional sector remuneration if more than 205 sectors (the “tripping limit”) are flown for Eurowings Europe in a calendar year. The employee will receive additional sector renumeration for every sector flown in a calendar year for Eurowings Europe beyond the "tripping limit". (currently 205 sectors). Additional sectors will be paid on a monthly basis.

How many sectors can I expect to fly in a working day?
It is industry average for point to point carriers like EWEU to fly 2 to 4 sectors in a working day.

Time81 5th Jul 2017 08:53

For PMI it's 204, but VIE/SZG 281 sectors. I was only considering VIE/SZG when answering your post.

For VIE/SZG you can expect around 2.000 net per month (or 2.500, if you consider the two additional salaries) which already include 281 sectors. For every additional sector you'll get 50 EUR (before tax and social insurance). I don't wanna argue about whether this is a good or bad contract - everyone needs to decide in his/her own; I just wanted to clarify that the sector pay is only for additional sectors and not from sector 1 on.

germandude 5th Jul 2017 13:22

Hi,

is there anyone who passed the assessment and is waiting to start the training?

ZorroFrench 5th Jul 2017 13:26

Hello guys,

I 'll try the DLR for a F/ O non rated postion on July, but I was wondering if I pass what will be the next phase?

antoniomg 5th Jul 2017 17:09

Hi,

Does anyone know at around what time does the tests end? I'm trying to book a flight at 18:00LT, but i don't know if I am able to get to the airport on time...

Thanks

XanderFly 7th Jul 2017 13:14


Originally Posted by Time81 (Post 9821275)
For PMI it's 204, but VIE/SZG 281 sectors. I was only considering VIE/SZG when answering your post.

For VIE/SZG you can expect around 2.000 net per month (or 2.500, if you consider the two additional salaries) which already include 281 sectors. For every additional sector you'll get 50 EUR (before tax and social insurance). I don't wanna argue about whether this is a good or bad contract - everyone needs to decide in his/her own; I just wanted to clarify that the sector pay is only for additional sectors and not from sector 1 on.

Thanks for the clarification, Times. Good to know that there are differences in sector pay between the bases. To me it's positive that the TR is being paid and the contract is permanent.

XanderFly 7th Jul 2017 13:18


Originally Posted by ZorroFrench (Post 9821487)
Hello guys,

I 'll try the DLR for a F/ O non rated postion on July, but I was wondering if I pass what will be the next phase?

DLR GU, Sim screening (A320), assessment center, psychological assessment, interview.

ZorroFrench 7th Jul 2017 13:26

thanks XanderFly, seems to be a very long processus...

ZorroFrench 7th Jul 2017 13:27

So to summarize it's like 2500 euros net plus a Type Rating bonded?

flyhigh788 8th Jul 2017 16:07

No. To summarize for VIE base it will be 2100 net and you will receive sector pay after 281 sectors in a year.

jmvdb22 25th Jul 2017 10:48

I am invited to do the DLR in Hamburg on 17 August, any others that will attend that day?
Also any tips for the test next to practising a lot?

Mlambin 25th Jul 2017 17:04

Practice everything you received in the downloaded package so you will feel confident.

For the test you can't practice, best of luck ! I was there on the 20th of this month I am waiting for the results.

jmvdb22 26th Jul 2017 09:11

Thanks! Best of luck to you as well.

As for the people saying you(me) shouldn't accept the pay they offer and such, I'm seriously wondering if you'd turn down the opportunity when offered while you were just starting your career in the current market.
The pay might not be great, but I'd be making more than I am at my current job, and I'd be doing that while flying. Seems like all positives to me, but please do correct me if you think there is a better opportunity I might have missed.:rolleyes:

Peter62 26th Jul 2017 17:15

Hi Mlambin. Did you do Sim Check also, or just test on those CBTs that you can download?
Even I'm going to Hamburg on 17/8, quite nervous right now :-)

ZorroFrench 27th Jul 2017 09:58

hey fols,

I was on the session of 20 July and just saw on the website Career Aero that my application is " closed " probably means that I was unsuccesful at the DLR

Anyone on the same situation?

maverickflyer 27th Jul 2017 11:34

hi guys, Im also going for the DLR tests in HAM the 17th. I haven't booked my hotel yet. Any recommendations? Thanks and good luck to all!


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