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TheScarletPimpernel 15th Mar 2016 14:46

Norwegian Self Sponsored Type Rating
 
Norwegian seem to have started a self-sponsored (pay-to-fly) type rating scheme. You can find the application details HERE.

From what I hear, you pay your own expenses to attend the interview, sim check is on some kind of generic flight training device and, because there is no full sim assessment, you will be assessed during training instead. i.e. you could be leaving one job and then getted chopped during sim or line training as you have no contract of employment until passing final line check.

During training you get €100 per day (only for days of training) and pay your own accommodation (not sure where training is based). Once finished line trng you get Junior F/O pay of €3300 basic (up to 1500hrs) and then €4000 as F/O.

Sounds like a risky move to me, if you already have a permanent contract (I'm staying put!)

Ohh yeah, the cost is around €23,000 € :mad:

jamesgrainge 16th Mar 2016 07:41

Sounds like a cheap p2f at least, not £30k like some members quote on this site. Perhaps an idea is to head to the likes of Simtech and do an assessment and sim training. Then you know if you are good enough beforehand?

dboy 16th Mar 2016 10:59

The price is still ok i think, but if you have no job guarantee.......risky indeed. And if so, does one get a employee contract or is it on self employment basis?

jamesgrainge 16th Mar 2016 11:54

Are you TR as it is on something?

liam548 16th Mar 2016 20:07

I recently heard about this too although did not have the details provided in this thread.


Has anyone applied?

speed_alive_rotate 16th Mar 2016 20:40

I don't see the big difference between this contract and the one offered by the other big Low Cost Carrier. In fact you do not even get payed during your training with the other carrier or accommodation etc.
Just to be clear I am not defending either of these companies or their training policies towards low hour pilots, just fail to see the big difference!!

dboy 17th Mar 2016 06:16

Well i confess, i applied. But i also admit i dont know the details. But what to do if facing unemployement and nobody else giving a chance.

It is all very difficult!!!

jamesgrainge 17th Mar 2016 10:55

At least you have a valid TR to present to other airlines. And at cheap cost by the sounds of it

Turbavykas 17th Mar 2016 17:15

It's sad they ask for ELP level 5.

EC DKN 17th Mar 2016 17:38

They can ask whatever they want! A ELP level 5 is not that high, especially in some EASA countries where so many pilots hold a level 5 which indeed they aren't!

wonder88 17th Mar 2016 21:07

Preferably have completed an integrated training course with Jet Orientation Course and Multi Crew Co-ordination (MCC) Course.

Modulars being ignored again? :D :ugh:

finswe 24th Mar 2016 09:11

Has anyone, who applied, received any info about this program? I'm not sure about the specs and any info is appreciated. Thanks!

22052014 1st Apr 2016 02:44


Originally Posted by TheScarletPimpernel (Post 9311474)
Norwegian seem to have started a self-sponsored (pay-to-fly) type rating scheme. You can find the application details HERE.

From what I hear, you pay your own expenses to attend the interview, sim check is on some kind of generic flight training device and, because there is no full sim assessment, you will be assessed during training instead. i.e. you could be leaving one job and then getted chopped during sim or line training as you have no contract of employment until passing final line check.

During training you get €100 per day (only for days of training) and pay your own accommodation (not sure where training is based). Once finished line trng you get Junior F/O pay of €3300 basic (up to 1500hrs) and then €4000 as F/O.

Sounds like a risky move to me, if you already have a permanent contract (I'm staying put!)

Ohh yeah, the cost is around €23,000 € :mad:

Applied as soon as it came out on the page, got the confirmation email but still waiting for an answer for interview or a call ?
Finger crossed for it.
If the details are like above, might be risky, but when you have no job at all, then it seems the only way out...

Sounds bit like RYR but still cheaper and better for the 100€/day, which are better than nothing.

@TheScarletPimpernel

Can you tell us where you get those number and details from ?
Even PM if you prefer,

Thanks

appfo09 4th Apr 2016 10:23

Hey, guys, I've applied too.
Wondering how the confirmation email looks like. What information does it contain? Can you provide ?
Thank you !

Eavr 4th Apr 2016 11:10

You should receive it immediately after you submit your application and tells you that the application is well received. They will contact suitable candidates to schedule an interview and candidates who are not considered suitable will receive written notification by letter or e-mail.

appfo09 4th Apr 2016 22:03

Hi Eavr !
Thank you. That is also the one which I already received. Hopefully, we will get a positive answer soon. Wish Good Luck to all of us who are trying to get into this company.

SeventhHeaven 11th Apr 2016 07:05

Has anyone heard anything of this since they applied? Other than the initial confirmation email?

finswe 11th Apr 2016 13:45

So far, nothing.

22052014 11th Apr 2016 15:55

The same
 
Negative, no new email.

EC DKN 11th Apr 2016 22:01

They are hiring from FTE Jerez! Sorry guys nothing for modulars!

FTEJerez to supply graduate pilots to Norwegian ? FTEJerez | News

AMS 11th Apr 2016 22:53

As they are from OAA too.

SeventhHeaven 12th Apr 2016 05:43

Why am I even surprised / disappointed? :ugh:

speed_alive_rotate 12th Apr 2016 07:27

And AFTA Cork also

BAe 146-100 12th Apr 2016 07:54

All you modular dreamers out there, time to wake up and smell the roses..

No one is going to let you walk out of flight school with 200 hours and go straight to a big shiny jet, you did not go through integrated. They have the strangle hold on the market and its not a new thing.

So for modular it is going to take lot more time for the first jet job, but you all chose that path, don't go complaining about it now because you didn't make the right decision.

You want a fly a big shiny jet quick, get mummy and daddy give you lots of money to go integrated.

Nothing is for free in aviation, you didn't pay 50K to win the lottery, when other guys paid 120K.... simple as that folks.

MaverickPrime 12th Apr 2016 09:21

You could clearly write what some of you guys know about pilot training on the back of a postage stamp.

Firstly, at no point in the FTE arcticle about Norwegian does it state that Norwegian will be exclusively selecting integrated students/graduates for employment. I suggest you polish up on your comprehension skills, you might need them if you want to be a pilot.

Secondly, FTE recommend their modular students to the airlines if they are good enough. If you read the FTE website there is even a testimony from a FTE modular student.

Anyhow, regardless of what FTE say I know plenty of modular students who are happily employed in the airlines, flying 'shiny' jets as their first job.

There is no right or wrong way to train. To all the keyboard warriors, if you are an aspiring pilot, you are going to struggle with the CRM aspect of airline flying.

Sorry to go off topic.

speed_alive_rotate 12th Apr 2016 09:34

Just to be clear , AFTA are putting forward recommended graduates , there is no exclusive deal . And I cant see a claim by anyone on this thread suggesting an "exclusive" deal for FTE either or any other school for that matter rather the names of schools who are supplying cadets at the moment. Not getting into modular v integrated debate not even relevant here!!!!!

EC DKN 12th Apr 2016 21:08

Hahaha calm down guys you are a bit nervous! I am modular too and a fact is a fact! They clearly specify that they prefer integrated pilot, but anyway if you chose modular you probably did knowing that u will work flying something else apart from shinny jets! ;)

By the way, a lot of modulars (after FR) fly for Norwegian! :)

bac1210 14th Apr 2016 17:19

They also asked CAE for some candidates.

flyfly4 18th Apr 2016 13:25

are you integrated from FTE bwsboy6? good luck

av8tor_ 19th Apr 2016 11:35

AFTA Cork / NAS Assessment
 
Has anyone been successful with the latest recruitment with AFTA in Cork?
I hear that the sim assessment and interview is pretty highly priced at €600!! :=

What are other places (FTE, CAE etc) charging for the privilege?

I have heard from an inside source within NAS that the deal for any new FO is not the pink and fluffy version that was sold to them in the first place. This actually would make RYR look like the best deal going forward the better option to pursue.

wonder88 19th Apr 2016 18:06

Also, does anyone know if the graduates that have been put forward are a select group or any that need jobs?

Speaking to FTE at Pilot Careers Live they said they were asked to supply 20 cadets for an interview with NAS but they only had 15 cadets left. They apparently can't produce the cadets quickly enough.

SeventhHeaven 19th Apr 2016 18:49

Time to stock up on vaseline and hope they might consider lil' modular me :sad:

Annoying thing is they probably won't ever reject my application; Never even heard back after I applied last year for their SSTR scheme

wonder88 19th Apr 2016 22:03

With the orange brigade in town did they all want the job?

appfo09 20th Apr 2016 22:37

SierraEchoCharlie your claim may, in fact, be true !

slashhead 23rd Apr 2016 09:40

I dont know for what kind of people Norwegian is looking but what I do know is that now and then I see people getting hired who have almost no hours at all ie. 200hrs total time.

Myself, who has also applied for the non type rated scheme have around 1200tt of which 1000 are on heavy turbo prop and I dont hear anything at all from them haha

Ps. im talking about the non type rated fo scheme

PapaEchoNovember 23rd Apr 2016 09:44

Similar here, but less experienced. 400tt with 200 Heavy Turbo Prop.
No reply also, and not anticipating one either but I will update here if I hear anything.

bac1210 23rd Apr 2016 16:00

I have the interview one of the next days!

Does one of you have any tips, questions, advices? Would be greatly appreciated! :)

22052014 25th Apr 2016 00:20

Are you integrated or modular ?
How many hours ?

gui227 28th Apr 2016 15:53

For pro integrated,

Modular from Fte, actually doing my TR with norwegian... 2 others modular in the TR group.

No integrated from ctc/cae/fte!

captain.weird 28th Apr 2016 21:14

The other two also from FTE?


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