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flyer787 11th Jan 2016 11:59

Condor Pilot Training
 
Hello everybody!

Does anybody heard or had any experience with condor pilot training in Spain ( zaragoza ).

They are offering line training in southamerica....

Any experience??

Wilco16 2nd Feb 2016 20:13

about condor
 
hello
did you have any info on this scheme? because I am looking around and no one seems to know

Thanks

JQKA 3rd Feb 2016 11:25

Why you don't send them an Email and gather some more informsation about the program.

and What do you wanna know, If I can help...
:O

Reveal1 5th Feb 2016 13:24

Any news so far?
Someone want add or say something about this Spanish Provider?
thanks for useful Information

JQKA 5th Feb 2016 15:21

Wilco 16 and Flyer 787
 
:ok:
Good try to sponsorize Condor aviation by hiding behind a nickname and acting as interested candidates!!
But this is not professional!:p

Reveal1 5th Feb 2016 18:20

Airgus what's that?
:rolleyes:

Nicolashue1 20th Feb 2016 11:08

To flyer787
 
Hello flyer

I am here for the same reason than you, trying to have some clue about condor training before signing for there South America line training.
Maybe you can contact me on private message, or Skype (same login )...

Best regards

P40Warhawk 20th Feb 2016 19:24

Hope you guys will get screwed big time. That is all you deserve when you consider to do P2F.

ONLY PAX should pay to fly.

LlamaFarmer 20th Feb 2016 22:50

For the love of god DON'T DO IT...


P2F is ruining the industry for everyone.

Airgus 22nd Feb 2016 17:33

Undercover promotion of P2F
 
Moderator please remove this post as it seems to be a clear indirect ad for this p2f.
Let's keep Pprune useful.

schweizer2 22nd Feb 2016 19:04

Why not leave this thread so that in a few months time we can see the cry babies talking about their lost fortune :=

LlamaFarmer 22nd Feb 2016 19:28

Because god forbid people actually go through with it, in doing so it screws over people at airlines everywhere when it comes to new contracts (through promotion/relocation or just plain forced contracts)

JQKA 22nd Feb 2016 21:32

;)
LlamaFarmer I don0t know your age but this is far away to damage the above...I think you're late..already passed a lot of years since p2f starts!
So no cry now......

and this is all our fault....not just p2f but fault of all the other milion of pilot signing:mad:contract with :mad:companies!

pfvspnf 18th May 2016 06:24

Can you elaborate more on the scam? How much are they asking for?

Guys please be careful! Never pay anybody, lets name and shame these people!

Fadecwithnos 4th Aug 2016 14:37

Hello everyone,

I just received the same email, here is text:


Thank you for your contact, and interest in the A320 program.


We have two slots remaining for the October start.

A320 Program.

Our A320 Cadet Program provides the opportunity to acquire the necessary experience in type that is
required by most airlines.
Program is divided in 4 phases:
1. ICAO Conversion License to Local License (Duration 4 weeks)
2. A320 Type Rating, carried out by the same airline. (Duration 4-6 weeks)
3. 1000 h as a Cadet FO.
4. Renewable contract with the same company as FO. (If the airline decides to hire you permanent)

The maximum duration for the program is 24 months.


A320 Program, Characteristics:
Selected pilots will join our program and make national and international flights in South America, during commercial operations.
To access the program is necessary to prove:
- CPL, ATPL o ATPL (frozen) License
- Valid IR-ME
- Valid Passport
- Min. 200h TT

Pass a personal interview, and an aptitude test in Zaragoza Spain.
Can also be done online via Skype, if you prefer that.
After passed interview you will get full airline details.

Program Benefits:
- 1.000h as Cadet FO with a month $2.000 month salary.
- Renewable contract after Line Training phase as FO with salary up to $5.000.
- Rapid promotion to Captain (3 years average)
- Free Accommodation.

Price and payment plan.
Price for the Condor A320 Pilot Cadet Program is 74,900 € which is a 5.000 EURO discount.
Payment plan is:
- First payment of € 6,000 is due once the candidate is accepted by Condor Pilot, and invited for the interview. (If you for some reason do not pass the interview, the money is refunded)
If you pass the interview, you will get the airline name and full details.
- Second payment of € 68,900 at the latest when you start the license conversion with the airline.



I have attached a PDF file with more info.
They will only provide the name of the company after paying and being approved in the first stage.... I don't know about you... but I think it is a scam.

ShamrockF 5th Aug 2016 10:35

Just to clarify...

"Condor Pilot Training" - Some unknown/new training organisation in Spain. their website is a little bit light on details (Home - Condor Pilot Training)

"Condor Ab Initio Program" - Something completely different run by the German airline which leads to a job a FO with Condor Airlines.
(https://www.career.aero/condor/de/job/show/id/1744)

pilotmostafa 19th Aug 2016 13:15

i traveled to spain and met , mr jesus their and we had a meeting and we discussed everything , that i can bring him dozen of pilots with me and even i dont care about the comission as long the service is provided because they are my fellow pilots , then the second day when i spoke with the guys here in egypt they asked me if i saw the agreement between condor and the airline or not , so i told them no , but i am still in madrid spain so i can travel to see the agreement , and i called mr jesus but he told he cant show the agreement via email because it's confidential so i told him i can travel back to zaragoza to see it and he told me its not with him now it's in the local country with their lawyer office so i told him tha the lawyer can email it to you and then i will come to see it , i am still in madrid , he told no he dont know when he can make it and have the contract and that i leave for now , and now he is not responding my emails neither do yolanda , and the un proffesionel i traveled all the way from egypt paid almost 2000$ and then i see this anyway For more infos contact me on skype (mostafahisham20)

pfvspnf 26th Aug 2016 12:33

Why did you bother meeting these fools ? You are only to blame ! This is a big scam

Javier606 29th Aug 2016 14:20

I wonder if anyone here is in the process with the money paid to Condor and want to take action,
please contact me privately.

Javier606 29th Aug 2016 14:22

Be careful with this agency, I have lost my money with them and now I am looking for others pilot affected.

Good luck


QUOTE=pilotmostafa;9478970]i traveled to spain and met , mr jesus their and we had a meeting and we discussed everything , that i can bring him dozen of pilots with me and even i dont care about the comission as long the service is provided because they are my fellow pilots , then the second day when i spoke with the guys here in egypt they asked me if i saw the agreement between condor and the airline or not , so i told them no , but i am still in madrid spain so i can travel to see the agreement , and i called mr jesus but he told he cant show the agreement via email because it's confidential so i told him i can travel back to zaragoza to see it and he told me its not with him now it's in the local country with their lawyer office so i told him tha the lawyer can email it to you and then i will come to see it , i am still in madrid , he told no he dont know when he can make it and have the contract and that i leave for now , and now he is not responding my emails neither do yolanda , and the un proffesionel i traveled all the way from egypt paid almost 2000$ and then i see this anyway For more infos contact me on skype (mostafahisham20)[/QUOTE]

pfvspnf 5th Sep 2016 02:19

How much did you lose ? What's the story ?

flyer787 20th Sep 2016 07:43

Hello Javier,

Im interested to know more, im also form Madrid....

AlakJohn 20th Sep 2016 18:25

Good morning guys,
If you are a pilot engaged in a line training with Condor Pilot Training, flying already or not, please send me more information , a lot of pilots want to know more about Condor Pilot .
Thank you .

pfvspnf 21st Sep 2016 09:17

Are you guys serious ? Don't you know that people have been scammed ?

J74 21st Sep 2016 18:37

You guys really CRAZY!!!!!

For those who paied, don't leave your money and RECOVER your Money from this SPANISH RUBBISH.

flyer787 22nd Sep 2016 11:11

Seems to be SCAM, till today i havent met a pilot who went to south america and did the line training succesfully

CockpitSeeker 26th Sep 2016 06:26

It seems to be, but "service" delivered or not, p2f businesses are scam from the start.
Anyone can eyeball their contractual setup and terms now at:
Condor Pilot Training SCAM « cockpitseeker
It's a whole lot of red flags if you ask me.

suresh08 26th Sep 2016 15:36

hello i saw these posts, and i wanted to say that before the 320 line training program there was a 737 program offered to me and i can say that condor pilot training is a really unproffetional company and like other people im going throw legal procedures with them triying to have back the money paid for the reservation.


i will sugess to every one that can to do the same
thanks

UL505 3rd Oct 2016 10:25

Did you sign up yet?

Originally Posted by Nicolashue1 (Post 9276074)
Hello flyer

I am here for the same reason than you, trying to have some clue about condor training before signing for there South America line training.
Maybe you can contact me on private message, or Skype (same login )...

Best regards


QR777 4th Oct 2016 21:35

Listen buddy,
There are many reasons why pilots do P2F, and my reason is I used to be an A320 FO, and due to some medical problems in my family I had to stop my flying job and attend to my family matter, and I was out of flying for 2 years and now after my family issue is all sorted I tried to get back to my career, and unfortunately every airline I applied asking me what is the date of my last flight in A320, when I tell them 2 years ago, they all turned me down, so now you telling me that I have to start again as an flight instructor and jump to regional or bush flying? are you kidding? I have even served in the Airforce as a pilot and I ain't going back. So I don't know what's your reason to hate P2F, it's their choice not yours, and I guarantee you that you are a P2F too, and all these P2F haters are P2F too.

pfvspnf 5th Oct 2016 06:24

I've not paid for anything I assure you. So you were seasoned FO but not current and you couldn't find a job anywhere ?! Very hard to belive , there's got to be more to it. At my previous company we hired a guy who'd been away from fkying for three years.

P2F reduces wages, compromises safety and is an awful thing to do.

Going to people like condor is simply moronic .

You probably deserve to be scammed

UL505 12th Oct 2016 22:04

Out of million you are talking about 1 who got hired, and I'm suppose to believe that? you grammar shows how professional you are.


Every airline requires time on type, so you better go tell those airlines not to ask for time on type.

UL505 12th Oct 2016 22:08

Unlike the good old days where the airlines requires just high school diploma and CPL/IR/ME are GONE!!!.


Plus when it comes to aviation everything is P2F, from PPL to CPL to ATPL, and paying to fly the B737 or the A320 is not forever, it is just to get the experience they need and no airline does any short cuts, regardless you have to go through a thorough training program, so stop spreading bogus info. No pilot will P2F forever.

CockpitSeeker 25th Oct 2016 21:21


Plus when it comes to aviation everything is P2F, from PPL to CPL to ATPL, and paying to fly the B737 or the A320 is not forever [...]No pilot will P2F forever.
Not forever? Is that supposed to make us feel any better? The line is perhaps blurry for some but you should know when "scholar" training ends and duty starts. *Giggles* it's bad enough some of you indulge in doing "it" initially, let's not give this practice an excuse for some to feel better. But we're digressing. Some of you deserve to be conned. Period. If it's not "Condor (Pilot **Training**)" then it's going to be "Eagle(Jet)" or whatever bird name these guys choose to lure you. A fool and his money are soon parted anyway.

QR777 6th Nov 2016 00:13

Hi 787, Have you heard anything from Condor yet?

Fayez alharbi 28th Nov 2016 18:49

Hi
 
Yes guys me too I paid for conder pilot 5000€ for type rating and 500hr program!! And they said the training will start on October but until now I'm waiting !! So guys plz let me know how can I get back my money or what I have to do?! I went to Spain and I sing the agreement!!

Reveal1 29th Nov 2016 17:58

Mmmmmmmmm....any news

QR777 9th Dec 2016 22:57

Jesus Funes Navarro, Yolanda Otea, Amalia, all are crooks, thieves, and so is their company Condor Pilot Training - Zarasoga, SPAIN. First go to your local Spanish embassy with the names and photos of these thieves, and then contact the police headquarters in Spain, and then go from there.

AlakJohn 13th Dec 2016 09:14

Fake pilots but real scammers , for sure .

pfvspnf 15th Dec 2016 09:21

Why did you guys pay these clowns ? Contact Interpol ASAP , Spanish police sand hire a private investigator .


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