Aer Lingus Cadet Pilot Program
 

FTEJerez

Good luck !

75% contribution towards costs. Wow, sounds promising.

The thread from last year was still be posted on a few months ago.

Maybe mods can merge?

interestingly no mention of maxmium age for cadets (well not officially) and also are they leaving the door open for guys who have already got their atpl exams and cpl/me/ir ? fingers crossed for this 38 year old guy with a 270 hour frozen atpl license.

I hope that guys in FTE Jerez are aware of the amount of applications that will fall on them in the nearest future...

OK, it took them 5 minutes to send me a rejection e-mail. Are they looking for ab-initio candidates?

Im ell,

Was it not rather obvious that it's a ab initio program?

Where are the entry requirements?
EDIT: Nevermind, they are on the FTE site, even though the FTE site clearly stated that the info is on the EI website.

EZY_FR,

they are not published, but may be derived from the application form:

18 before or at 1 Jan 2015
EU Citizen,
Medically fit,
Some flying experience, but w/o a license (based on my turbo-quick rejection e-mail)
Willing to pay 25 000 Euros for the training

I have a good few hours and I got the stage 2 email to answer the questions on the FTE website.

PeppyJeppy, I would e-mail to confirm, it might have been a technical error. It's definitely specific to ab-initio from what I've read. A link is given to the Aer lingus "cadet" pilot page and there it is stated it is for those with little or no flying experience, anything more is direct entry in EI terms.

Re. Educational Requirements
 

Educational criteria:
You must hold a Leaving Certificate or equivalent with a minimum of 6 subjects which must include the following:
English and Mathematics minimum grade C in ordinary level
Plus Two higher level subjects at a minimum grade C
Source; FTEJerez

For a UK Citizen, does the, 'English and Mathematics minimum grade C in ordinary level' refer to GCSE?'s
Also, 'Plus Two higher level subjects at a minimum grade C' Does this refer to A Level Grades?

Regards.

That is how I understood it TODA.1

I don't think so guys. Your GCSE would be equivalent to our Junior Cert. Your A levels would be more equivalent to our Leaving Cert. So I would suspect for Uk guys that A levels would be required.

Number of subjects at leaving certificate or equivalents * = GCSE

Number of higher level subjects or equivalent with grade C or above * = A Level

Have you completed or are you currently studying towards a third level qualification? * = University

?

The Irish junior cert is the equivalent of the UK GCSE, The Irish Leaving Cert is the equivalent of UK A-levels.

EDIT: The Leaving cert varies, subjects taken at ordinary level are GCSE equivalent, higher is A-level

Thank you all for your prompt responses. Best regards to you all for your applications!

Well I'm just chancing the arm and applying really.

But on the form it does ask if you have a licence and gives the option to tick PPL/CPL/ATPL. It also asks if you have done any ATPL exams. Bit of an odd option to give if they only want effective zero hour guys.

Sure look I applied ticked the boxes and told the truth. Let them be the ones to tell me no.

"Bit of an odd option to give if they only want effective zero hour guys."

They want to see how far you've gone in, cpl/ir wouldn't be allowed as immelmann found out, whereas ppl or maybe some other small things maybe allowed.

"Sure look I applied ticked the boxes and told the truth. Let them be the ones to tell me no."

I didn't say you lied and I was only trying to help by saying to e-mail, calm down.

I'm quite calm. They ask if you have a licence and after you select yes it asks if it is PPL/CPL/ATPL. I ticked CPL. 2 other guys I know with CPLs(and one has an MEIR and 400+TT) also got the phase 2 email so it seems to be ok.

If they say no they say no...they probably will....I wont cry over it but until I hear no I'm happy enough

Based on what You guys are writing here, neither the flight hours nor license were the rejection criteria for me but the number of Leaving Cert subjects. :/

75% is promising indeed!
Any idea what happens just in case you were not offered an FO position with Aer Lingus? Are you supposed to repay them the remaining cost of your training in that case?

This has easily got to be the best ab initio scheme going for which UK people are eligible (probably the best for the last decade). I applied last year but was turned down after the final stage, but it's really impressive that a national airline is still willing pay for the majority of the training cost. It's a little bit sad that that is noteworthy due to its rarity.

I'd guess there'll be only a handful of spaces and they'll be swamped with applications, but to their credit the people in HR respond to emails and calls very well. You have to be able to be quite flexible though. Last year I had less than a weeks notice for all three Dublin stages if memory serves. Cue lots of frantic flight/hotel booking while simultaneously finding people to cover shifts etc.

If it's anything like last year in structure it goes like this:

1) Application Form
2) Online aptitude tests

3) Assessment Centre, Dublin
- Assessed group discussion
- Written assessment (essay-type questions)
- Interview with two senior captains

4) Dublin
- Computerised tests
- Interview with two senior captains

5) Dublin
- Personality test (hundreds of questions)
- Interview with psychologist
(- Medical, if you don't already hold a Class 1)

Stages 3, 4 and 5 are all separate events and for me 3 and 4 were about five months apart. This may all have changed as FTE are clearly involved from the start this time.

It was a shame to go through the whole thing and not make it, but there's plenty of competition. I suggest going for it and giving your all.

What are people doing with the word count, going well below it or just a few words below it ? It says 500 so I initially planned for 400 each, proving difficult trying to keep it down.

Hi guys, if you don't meet the LC requirements (didn't get the maths grade) dies studying for a level 3 surpass the requirements?

I know someone currently in 3rd level and he didn't make the maths either, he received a rejection e-mail.

So, just to confirm the Maths and English grades are referring to the GCSE equivalent?

EI cadets
 

Folks,
Best of luck to applicants, try and dig up previous thread on this as answers most questions, follow boards.ie aviation section as threads
Merged, this is third year of program, huge number
Applicants, 2500 just from FR ,
20 positions , a great career , so few places BUT

Getting through the first phase requires focus , get it right
It's critical that your fullest attention is on this, so
Easy to be screened out by a system so any questions read the
Threads or email EI HR

Again good luck , a great little company , good expansion
Coming, solid financials and loads of UK folks on the team
Stay positive on this thread , it helps!

A-Levels

Results in the final school leaving exam

I didn't apply in previous years but I have a feeling this year is different. There are no computer aptitude tests etc, only written questions. Either way competition will be fierce :}

I'm not applying for this yet.

I would need to speak to someone professional. I am not even sure what the leaving certificate is either.

When is the deadline? What is the aptitude test? Are you asked to do questions on like quadratic equations etc?

I applied today. Must say, it was nice not to see an upper age limit! I'm 29 and feel that I still might be pushing it age wise!

Aer Lingus Cadet Pilot Program
 

If you had a 1000hrs 738 time would they still look at you... Great scheme and company!

I would hope not! Thats hardly fair on people like me with no hours!!

Aer Lingus want crews at the pointy end! Life is not fair kid...first rule of life!

So why call it a "cadet" programme then?

They won't accept anyone on the cadet course who already holds an ATPL(f). DE FO recruitment may follow but this course is for people with no experience or who only hold a PPL

What a great scheme this appears to be! Gutted I won't be able to apply as you would need to get an IAA Class 1 medical who don't have the CAD colour vision test.

Unfortunate for people like me who fail the Ishihara colour test and lantern test but can get a CAA Class 1 after passing the new(ish) CAD test at Gatwick!

May be worth bearing in mind for folks in a similar position.

Not heard a response...
 

I submitted my application on Saturday and got to the generic "application submitted successfully" page of the site detailed here;

"Thank you for applying.

Your application has been submitted successfully. You will receive an immediate email response from us to the e-mail address provided on the application form.

If your initial details meet the requirements for this selection program, the e-mail will give you a link with access details to the next phase. After accessing the link in the e-mail you must answer the questions to the best of your ability. If you have any difficulty in accessing the link, please contact FTEJerez at [email protected]

Please note that you must return the answers as directed within three days from the time that you submit your application. You may return to the questions through the link as often as you like, however your three day time limit for returning answers begins from the time that your application was submitted.

FTEJerez"

In my personal opinion I tick all the boxes (mid 20's, sufficient grades, PPL, Class one medical, UK citizen, not started any ATPL exams etc) but I haven't yet received the "immediate email response" FTE mention, I applied Saturday! :ugh: . (I have checked my junk mail)

Is anyone else in the same position? I have emailed them, but have not yet received a response. I don't want to apply again as multiple applications can disqualify you, but I am getting slightly anxious as the three day time limit for returning answers begins from the time that your application was submitted.

Should I continue to just refresh my inbox over and over? I am going slightly mad, advice appreciated folks?

Thanks

I don't think 3 days is enough to give for the questions, not when your quite busy at work etc though i guess everyone is in the same boat .