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Cowboy1 5th Nov 2014 09:31

Costs, Age & Salary
 
The CTC site mentions the Skills Funding Agency as an option for funding the 106k security bond. Does anyone know much about this? Would they fund the full amount? Sounds just like a student loan to me, from the SFA website, but can't find a maximum cap anywhere? Would be great if they do, as would remove need to secure on the house.

Also, does anyone know if age would be an issue. Only 35, but likely to be slightly older than some other candidates. Still a 30 year career ahead of me! But do you think that would be an issue?

And assume there would be no salary paid during the 18 month training period?

Thanks!

BaronVonBarnstormer 5th Nov 2014 10:03

Does anyone have any clue as to when the next stage will be? Pre or post Christmas? Thinking about time off is all...

(No I haven't heard back...yet)

almon1298 5th Nov 2014 10:57

just got my thanks but no thanks email too. My experience is ppl, 94hrs TT, no atpl exams passed. Degree. Age 26. Sucks! IM focusing on the COMMAND program now. Fed up with these cadet schemes for the moment.

InformationAlpha 5th Nov 2014 11:29

Do you think this indicates the weight of the essay questions?

BaronVonBarnstormer 5th Nov 2014 12:10

I cant see that some poor sod at CTC has to sit and read 600 words from each application. My guess is that all applications are screened by a computer program that looks for key words and phrases. Then if you pass the criteria in all the other sections (education, age, fly experience etc) and have the right key phrases it puts your application through. Then only ones that meet the right criteria are then read.

onthekeys 5th Nov 2014 13:07

Virgin Atlantic Future Pilot Program
 
Hi all

Thought I would start a thread for the program so we can all chat with each other, I have put my application in today and hoping for a positive answer. Does anyone know what the time frame was for them to get back to you?

Also, so far reading the other thread it seems that there have been many "thanks but no thanks" from them, wondering if anyone had managed to get through to the next part yet.

Best of luck to everyone else who applies.

EZY_FR 5th Nov 2014 14:06

How soon after submitting the initial application form did you receive the essay questions from CTC? I sent mine away two days ago and I haven't received anything yet.

onthekeys 5th Nov 2014 17:33

Future pilot program
 
Hi allot my application in today and hoping for the best. Wondered if anyone on here had had a positive reply from them yet?

Good luck to all

d.nyathi 5th Nov 2014 20:55

hi guys just wondering if anyones been accepted yet, my application for some reason is "ON HOLD" should i be worried

DS4 6th Nov 2014 19:48

VAFFP
 
Just received my positive e-mail for the next stage of the application process, just wondering what dates other people have been given for the assessment day at CTC?

Danny. 6th Nov 2014 21:07

Has anyone heard anything back from their application? I haven't yet. If anyone does it would be great if you could let us know!

I am checking mine daily for any progress but my phase one status is "awaiting selection". Hopefully I will hear something soon either way it would be nice to know the outcome.

I do however remember when I applied for the icp route 4 years ago that I had to call them to find out what was going on. When I did they said there had been an error with the system and it was purely due to the fact that I had put a start date so far away in the future.

Fingers crossed for everyone applying :ok:

BaronVonBarnstormer 7th Nov 2014 14:39

Just seen on the FB Q&A that they will be taking 200+ through to the next stage from "many thousands". Fans of maths; that's a maximum of 20% :ok:

And apparently all the applications are read by a human. :eek:

Cowboy1 7th Nov 2014 17:46

FB Session
 
On the facebook session they also seemed to confirm that you would be on £27k plus what I assume would only be inflation level yearly increases for the seven years, and only go on to normal pay scales once the seven years was up. Is that standard?

Does anyone know what the starting salary is for the BA round and whether you would get pay increases in line with increased experience?

This is the thread:

"George Lamb I've heard the starting salary for successful trainees will be around £27,000. I understand this is significantly lower than the £65,000 direct F/O salary. Why is this and will FFP pilots be on a separate pay scale to direct entry pilots?
CTC Aviation George. Our Direct Entry Pilots have a minimum of 3000 hours (on average over 4000) this means that they have been flying for 5 years or more, some have been Captains or even Training Captains. The salary has been aligned with experience and also the successful applicants get their training paid. Hope this helps explain. Many thanks
George Lamb Thanks for the response, but would FFP pilots ultimately earn the same as those of with equivalent hours as a direct entry pilot? so 3000/4000 hours would lead to a similar £65,000 wage. For further understanding, say a successful FFP flew 3000 hours for Virgin over x amount of time. If a DEP joined with 3000 hours at the same time the FEP reached 3000 hours, would they be on equivalent wages/pay scale? Thanks.
CTC Aviation Hi George. Once the 7 years are complete and the bond repaid the pilot will move over to the normal pay scales
George Lamb Thanks for the reply CTC Aviation. Sorry to be a bother but I just wanted to iron things out. Would the FFP receive any salary increase in those 7 years?
CTC Aviation Hi George. Yes there are incremental pay rises every year"

Jkelly747 7th Nov 2014 19:14

CTC Assessment
 
Hey DS4,

What date have you been given for your ctc assessment? I have yet to receive a reply regarding my application but was just curious as to roughly when the assessments are taking place.

Thanks

Gavinlewis01 9th Nov 2014 17:04

Not this time
 
Just received my thanks but no thanks e-mail, nevermind. Just to update you all recent figures from CTC today, Virgin stated that:

a. So far there are around 6000 applicants
b. 300..ish would be passed through to the next stage (assesment centre)
c. 100..ish would be selected for the final assesment day with Virgin
d. 12 jobs available at the end, leaves a 0.2% chance of success!

Apologies, if everybody is already aware of the current statistics.

Danny. 9th Nov 2014 21:08

I just got the sorry but not thanks email too!!! It's a shame, but never mind onwards and upwards as they say.
Looks like the odds are getting slightly better for those still in the game
The statistics show just how fierce the competition is and as always I wish everyone with applications still active the best of luck
Danny.

Captainblue83 10th Nov 2014 09:51

Just got my email saying I'm through to selection @ Dibden!
Not bad considering these crazy stats about the amount of applications.

onthekeys 10th Nov 2014 11:28

Hi all

What time frame did it take them to get back to you with a yes or no answer, I put my application in last Wednesday AM and still haven't heard anything back from them. On the ctc portal it still says that it is "awaiting selection"

Would anyone recommend giving them a call or just leave it until they get in touch with me

Thanks

average-punter 10th Nov 2014 11:31

It seems that this scheme is far more competitive than the BA FPP. Two years ago there were around 4000 applicants for 75 spaces. Roughly a 2% chance compared with Virgin's 0.2%.

I have to say I'm fairly surprised as BA say that they will guarantee the loan for anyone who requires it but this seems a grey area with Virgin.

Jkelly747 10th Nov 2014 11:49

Selection at Dibden
 
Congrats on making it to Dibden Captainblue,

What date are you attending?


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