Flydubai B737NG Type Qualification Program
 

Greetings fellow aviators, has anyone heard anything about the upcoming Flydubai B737NG Type Qualification Program in cooperation with CAE ?

https://pilot.cae.com/Careers.aspx

Will it be similar to Ryanair´s Type Qualification Program? :}

May be...anyway is still inactive... :ugh:

i think it'll be only for locals :(

Look like the application window is open

Good luck everyone :ok:

Sounds like you first have to do there type rating program, and if that is finished you can do the flydubai assessment. What if you fail the assessment then you have a type with no hours and much money wasted.

I was actually looking forward to this so called Flydubai programme with CAE.

Back to the drawing board :ugh:

From my reading of the scheme, even if you complete their type rating you're not guaranteed an assessment, those recommended by the training school may get an assessment. So you may or may not get recommended by the TRTO for an assessment that you may or may not get invited to that you may or may not pass. Too mant may or may nots really, I'm too old for it anyway.

Good luck to those that choose to apply, I've a feeling you may well need a fair bit of luck.

Minimum 52 hours in the sim, compared to the Ryanair type which is just 36. That's a minimum of 44% extra sim time.

It also takes six months, compared to 6 weeks at Ryanair. Are they offering a Masters in the Boeing 737NG?

This course ain't going to be cheap!!

Why would you go through all this before getting the opportunity to even apply for a job?

I think I'll sit this one out. I'd suggest thread carefully to anyone who thinks of going splashing out their(or someone else's for that matter) hard earned cash.

What a total disappointment! I have been looking forward to this scheme for months and this is the best they can come up with!

Out of interest does anybody know how much this type rating (and extra sim) will cost? Just for the 'chance' of an interview.

Obviously it is just aimed at people who are going to pay for a rating without the offer of a job anyway. Most people I know who have done (or would do) that, would normally go to Ryanair if possible or a cheaper TRTO like Baltic.

Also no mention of a wage during the 2nd officer program, so if that's 6 months without pay in Dubai - good luck! It's extremely expensive to live there!

:D Flydubai :ugh:

A very risky and very expensive P2F program..its a very stupid program..plus no airline ticket, hotel etc. Its cheaper to pay for your typerating then goto eagle jet or one of other red light establishment.. do a 500/1000hrs in NG then approach flydubi:p or companies other than flydubi..

avoid all this bullcaca that CAE is offering.. this will all end in tears in a few months when someone fails after spending a gold bullion for nothing.. :{

ryanair type rating last slightly more than 3 months and is 61 hrs into the sim....:ok:

Any of you even seriously considering this needs your head examined, in which case you probably wont pass the psychological evaluation anyway :p

there's nothing about financial structure of this course...Anyway conditions are very bad.

I know its not a great deal but at the moment there are no great deals to be had. I see no difference in this between someone who's going to self fund a type rating with no job prospects. To me if someone was going to a self funded 73 type then this give the chance of an interview for a job which you might not have before.

i know there is no information of how much etc, but its worth investigating for people wanting to self fund.

only my opinion though, don't shoot me down :)

I also don't see much difference between this and just self funding a type rating - something that unfortunately lots of people seem to be doing anyway.

What I don't understand is why not do the selection before starting the rating like Ryanair does? :ugh:

I mean if someone turns out to be useless on the type course or line training they could just get rid of them anyway - it's not like by doing it that way the company would be exposing itself to much more risk.

That's true. I don't understand why either. The only thing I can think is unless it's due to people unable to gain the funding after success at the interview.

I know with the airline I work for now (I had to self fund) (not FR) after we got told we passed one person couldn't raise then funds and our start date was then paused till they found someone to make the numbers. Maybe cos it's only a small airline. But it seems now their trying to get rid of any risk whatsoever.

I wish it could be better.

:ugh:
It seems quite strange ... by the way I'm too old to apply ... I'm 31 :bored:

I would have thought that it was quite obvious. Sell a load of extra type ratings to desperate/gullible wannabes.

Anyone knows the price of this course?

Hi guys!

The cost is 33.000 USD and the base training is not provided...
During the check an authorized Flydubai representative will observe the trainee and may offer an interview with them. Take your risks :E

The cost
 

If you have already completed a JOC the cost is 29.000 dollars.

Suddenly Ryanair looks like a great deal...

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I think it is absolutely ridiculous that they dont have pre-assessments like ryanair, this isn´t a flydubai recruitment scheme, this is CAE tricking desperate people into buying type ratings in hope of a job at the end of it. :ugh:

I think few people will apply for this program.... Is there someone who applied and received an answer?

I have applied last week just to see what's the real deal. Because we don't have a lot of information in the website of CAE.
Still don't have news from CAE.

Where did you get the informations about the prices with and without JOC??
Thanks

$33.000 if you don't have a JOC.
In case you do, it's $29.000.

Check, but where did you get the info??
I would like to have more info about the program...

hi,

Anyone recently did their assessment or knows what to expect during the CAE/FLYDUBAI screening?

Any information is much appreciated

Assessment/screening
 

There is no pre-assessment or screening, you have to obtain a Type rating from CAE center in Dubai and then maybe you may have a chance of an interview with Flydubai :rolleyes:

Anyone heard back from CAE about the program at all?

Ok, but you have to do the Type Rating by yourself first or you need to have a call or mail from CAE to say that you are selected for the type???
It's not clear to me!!!

Dear Kero,


There is a list of minimum requirements you must meet before they allow you to start the TR. Age, min of 250 hrs, fATPL, MCC, Flown within the last 12 months, EP 4+ etc.

For everyone on this thread who is condescending about this program:


You must understand that there are a lot of ab initios out there who have no other options. If you think about it:
24.000 EUR for a CAE Emirates Aviation College B737NG TR including a JOC and the amount of hours, is a good deal. Especially for pilots who are on their jobhunt for the last 1, 2, 3 years.
If you put your utmost to it and rise above yourself and pass your checkride they will invite your for an interview.
I have been in contact with the CAE EAC, 12 guys did this program, 4 are employed.
The odds are indeed on the low side, but then again, if an opportunity like this comes up and you are still unemployed after 2 years of graduation, you gonna stay there behind your desk? Or are you taking this chance with both hands.
Worst case scenario for me: I pass the checkride, flyDubai does not employ me, I have a TR plus the experience and a new motivational boost to continue applying for other airlines, airlines who will find you more attractive now you are typerated.

Good luck everyone!

The price is more expensive then doing there TR normally, factor in accommodation, food and travel. Granted Taxis are cheap there.

All that is happening is a Chance, thats it, a chance, not for an interview but to the first round, there are 3 rounds, this would let you skip your CV because you dont have the hours.

Im assuming its the same as the NTR and TR first officer route so you go to Southampton to do
day 1:-Interview, group exercises, presentation
day 2:- Simulator
day 3:- Dubai, interview, medical.

Now note from experience there will be about 8 of you there, this number almost always gets down to two that make it to day 3.

With it being at Southampton you will probably be there with other TR guys. with hours on type.

Thats a lot of money to pay, for a chance to get your CV skipped, then onto your 25% chance of making it to day 3.

@Yoush

this is ridicolous! at the end you will find yourself with an even bigger debt and more frustation...the airline won t look.at you, at least you need to have 500 hrs on type! have a look on the requirements from like every airline in the world!
be real man!

I might consider this program, as a last resort, if it was on the A320 because it seems a more valuable type to have on the licence.

737 not so good, doing it might rule you out of Ryanair because they have no interest as far as I'm aware at the moment in people who are typed but no line hours, not many other operators who have 737 and consider no hours on type at the moment. If one is going to self sponsor type it is probably best to do A320...

I wouldnt even as a last resort, do the maths, even if you had the hours to do the FO scheme you still only have a 25% chance of passing.

This would be even less of a chance as you still have to pass the TR well enough that they recommend you to start the testing which you have a 25% chance of passing

read this
FlyDubai Pilot Interview Profiles

You need to understand CTC are going to be involved, you have given them no money, the interviews they get paid to conduct so there is no incentive for them to pass everyone that turns up as that would reduce the amount of interview days they would need to conduct which they get paid to host.

Dont get me wrong Flydubai is not a bad company to work for, the issue is how much you are going to spend for a less than 1/4 chance to getting in.

If you went to a gambling house knowing you had a 1/4 chance of getting a little bit more than what you put in almost 5 years later would you really roll the dice.

Thats not a good pilot characteristic taking risks like that

Yoush,

Where did you get info that out of 12 guys 4 are with FZ now?
I hope not CAE... :}

Someone was already call by the CAE for this program???

Not sure what to think of this. Seems quite a risk.

Again, rumours is that due to the runway closure at Dubai (DXB) in may and june, flydubai have to reduce operations, therefore the outlook, if you were lucky to pass all selections, would be a job maybe at the end of 2014 maybe even 2015, and just maybe.