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flying apprentice 12th Sep 2013 07:28

Is anyone else in 'application received' status or will i once again be in application limbo as I was with the pilot apprentice position.

I know I was a little late getting the application in so hoping its first come first served. Those folk under review, when did you submit your applications ?

And anybody know what 'job status date' is ? That's showing a different date to application status date? Being pessimistic, seeing that says sept 5th and my application status hasnt changed, I'm thinking they've looked at others and decided to leave mine alone for now.

Also anybody else notice that their job status date for the pilot apprentice is showing well after their PFO email ? Mine shows July 2013 even though I got PFO in march !

P40Warhawk 12th Sep 2013 07:37

So hopefully someone could clear up if European is still excisting ? Because I can not find an working page, bacause the total time of that JOC training is quiet ok. Though Id rather pay a bit of my training costs from that money.

Thanks folkes ;) .

flying apprentice 12th Sep 2013 08:11

looking at their website the other day, looks like european are doing everything on their 744 sim.

Have you called them ?

P40Warhawk 12th Sep 2013 09:03

It is pretty hard to call them, If I can't find their site :D . Anyone a link? Thank you ;) .

schweizer2 12th Sep 2013 09:12

European Group - Welcome

P40Warhawk 12th Sep 2013 09:34

Thank you ;) .

Very Reasonable price also . I have already MCC, so might only need JOC.

P40Warhawk 12th Sep 2013 11:21

Thanks again for the Hint Mick ;) . But everyone is pretty enthousiastic about European. So will see. I am not gonna spend money just on something without a reason. I'd rather fly for fun a bit more on actual airplane. But If I get seriously considered or when I will apply for more positions in UK, then I can do JOC.

_ShIfTy_ 12th Sep 2013 11:22

The min for Jet2 was a 16 hour JOC.

ford cortina 13th Sep 2013 10:19

3 hours flying a 747-400 sim.....
I don't wish to know the merits of that, but you really will be struggling with that.
If you want to fly a 737, you would be better off doing a JOC course on the 737, there are providers out there who use the sims at Gatwick (Gecat/Oxford), Heathrow(BA's Cranebank), these are the same type you will use in your career, they will help you in your first type rating.
Is the cost worth it? thats up to you.
best of luck.

P40Warhawk 13th Sep 2013 11:11

I agree with that. An 747 is more complicated maybe. But does anyone know the actual time you will fly in this JOC course of European? Or is it really only 3 hourse, because then it is totally useless of course, since Jet2 wants to see atleast 16 hours.

P40Warhawk 13th Sep 2013 13:41

Then the price is not so interesting anymore. I thought it will be around 20 hours. I found the price already low.

Anyone else any suggestions for JOC course? For reasonable price and between 16 and 20 hours? No need for Full motion I guess?

ford cortina 13th Sep 2013 16:57

if you really want to do a Joc, you really need to do it in a Level D sim. This means Full motion. Fixed base will not give you enough insite. This is not a type rating, it is intended to help you understand how a jet aircraft behaves. You cannot do that on a fixed base.

I speak only as a experienced 737 FO.
Good luck

ford cortina 13th Sep 2013 17:00

P40warhawk, a 747 is actually not as complicated as a 737. But it has a steeper learning curve.
I have had some fun in a 747 sim, but it is a bit more of a handful

P40Warhawk 13th Sep 2013 20:01

I understand. Thanks for explaining. I really appreciate that. We are here to advise eachother I guess, so every little bit of help and advise is welcome. We are all in the same situation. Or we want something better, or we are searching for our first job in the cockpit.

But is really one huge mistery where to go then, because 1 hour full motion is around 400 euro. That times 20 is 8K. Then Some ground School. Expensive business. Well maybe devided by 2 because you are sitting in cockpit with someone else. So lets Say 5K.
So If anyone could put some links down. Its really some rimbu in the matter. I don't need MCC. Have that already.

Planefan2981 16th Sep 2013 13:23

Anyone lucky enough to receive a call or email yet?

Planefan2981 16th Sep 2013 14:13

Also does anyone know any good websites where you can practise compass tests free?

appfo09 16th Sep 2013 19:05

Nothing is free nowadays my fellow ! If you want to buy some really useful material try google Skytest. I bought it, did practice with it in the past and i am very happy that I bought it because any other pilot selection that would arise hopefully in the near future i can use it.

Planefan2981 17th Sep 2013 04:17

Thanks very much! :ok:

Mr-P 17th Sep 2013 12:58

Hey has anyone heard anything at all yet, how about you folks where your application status changed from received to 'under review'...?

Has anyone else had their status changed recently?

P40Warhawk 17th Sep 2013 14:52

Still Application Received :( . I don't expect anything anymore. Will see.


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