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avgeek23 18th Jan 2013 04:56

All Line Training in Indonesia Cancelled!!
 
I heard yesterday that the DGCA in Indonesia has brought in a new rule stating no Indonesian airline may hire any foreign flight crew with less than 250 hours on type.

Can anyone confirm when this will take effect? Is it immediate?

I'm guessing it will have a huge impact on all those poor guys lined up for Lion Air through EagleJet!

Luke SkyToddler 18th Jan 2013 07:27

If they were "poor" they sure as hell wouldn't be involved with Eaglejet, it's for rich kids only :rolleyes:

TypeIV 18th Jan 2013 07:42

:D:D:D:D If this is true

inner 18th Jan 2013 07:48

Back side of the medal is that non typerated people can forget applying overthere, so yes, also the poor people. This rule is just to protect the locals.

It is getting worse every single day in this industry.

ZFT 18th Jan 2013 08:44


This rule is just to protect the locals.
..and the EU, US of A and RoW don't also protect their own?

Vsnake 18th Jan 2013 09:05

I'm not sure this will stop line training programs. Look in Turkish, the rule is 1500h for foreign pilots but there is still many line training programs going on..

:bored:

inner 18th Jan 2013 09:13

@zft, what concerns europe, NOP!!!!!!

This is europe of today.

ZFT 18th Jan 2013 11:11

I'm sorry but you've lost me?

TypeIV 19th Jan 2013 07:16


It is getting worse every single day in this industry.
How is the industry getting worse by removing alot of P2F opportunities?

inner 19th Jan 2013 07:42

.....by also making not typerated guys (non paying people) impossible to get a chance.

Raccatto 19th Jan 2013 08:32

What's the point ?

LINE TRAINING 500h on type > 250h on type Indonesian DGCA rule.

Maybe am i wrong?

Or when you are eligible to start a line there, , are they going to hire you for starting the 500 h ? ok,in this case things change.
bye.

Feedmemore 19th Jan 2013 08:54

Look to buy 250h or more in Europe.

Then go to Indonesia, buy 500 hours or more.

Then come back to Europe and start a new line training as this is the law for each airline you will go....

This is what guys you don't want to understand, once you are out Of the airline you need to restart the whole line training process.

TypeIV 19th Jan 2013 09:06


by also making not typerated guys (non paying people) impossible to get a chance.
They take $25-40k for the line training and they have more applicants than opportunities (rated guys), hence the constant increase in price for the LT. I don't see them taking any non rated + non paying guys in the foreseeable future for this reason mate.

This rule would make the industry more good than bad I would guess. The Indonesian P2F schemes are a cancer to the industry. The AB-initios even include the cost for TR+LT in their total training cost from day one nowadays, it's no longer a move of desperation, they count on having to do the LT+TR. That's how bad the situation is. :ugh:

pilotchute 19th Jan 2013 09:24

Guys,

The 250 hour thing is if you want to fly with a validation of your current licence. If your employer will organise an Indonesian licence then it is no problem to have less or no time on type at all.

ROO-C26B 19th Jan 2013 15:07

Pilotchute,

Is there any chance you could direct me to the reference regarding the new 250 hrs on type requirement? I could not find it on the DGCA website.

Thanks,

Cheers.

PilotWA123 20th Jan 2013 02:59

Pilotchute
 
I am interested to see the reference as well... Could not find anywhere..

pilotchute 20th Jan 2013 04:01

That's from HR at Airfast for the DHC-6 jobs they advertised. I have turbine time but none on the Twotter so they can't validate my licence and they won't get you an Indonesian licence unless they think you will be around long term.

Phenom100 20th Jan 2013 11:20

In the coming months i will starting with a well know carrier in Indonesia (not Lion) and i have NO time on type. So this may be just a Airfast restriction.

jetjockey696 20th Jan 2013 14:16

if you are desperate... you can get indonesian license... pay for yourself.. 6500USD for endorsement the going rate... :p

Phenom100 20th Jan 2013 15:47

I already have DGCA License and have flown in Indonesia for many years.


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