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MJR 9th Jun 2004 10:12

More bad news, I believe the last course that went through OATS have all been offered jobs at McDonalds. One more reason to spend the money and go integrated.



PS Still bored:ok:

Northern Highflyer 9th Jun 2004 10:21

Well I took the modular route and started small. I even bought a share in a chip pan which I get to use twice a week. It is good value at around £2 per hour wet (oily). I have to admit my first attempts were a disaster and it was a while before I went solo. I just couldn't master a smooth landing of fries into the little cardboard box thingy without a couple falling out.

I am now busy working on my night qualification so that I can work the evening shifts as well. I don't expect to go straight onto the shiny friers at the big boys just yet. I will be happy to start in the local chippy and spend a couple of years there to build up my experience.

JohnnyPharm 9th Jun 2004 12:50

MJR

Your a sad man, causing all this mayhem, but its a great laff all the same!

ACW 335 9th Jun 2004 14:24

The Real Thing
 
I'm 19, a Floor Manager at McDONALDS and I have a PPL (ok, i know its not 4 stripes, but it will do!)
And no, i don't get to wear an air hostess uniform! (I'm a girl before i get any wierd comments) ;)


PS If anyone is after a grill rating, i can assure you it is a very cheap and easy rating to get and keep current.
The grill rating is also similar to the IMC/IR, having the REGULAR GRILL and also QUARTER GRILL ratings. The latter being the harder of the two, needing more time to complete. It enables you to make better approaches to your smokey grill, which i assure you can be tricky. You will feel much more competent with your spatula :\

Those who work after 2100 hours also qualify to apply for the night grill rating. This again is easy to keep current and does not require quite so many hours as the CAA version of the NIGHT RATING.
You can also upgrade your SINGLE grill to TWIN, possibly more if you so desire

(Im going to shut up now before the flaming starts....:mad::p)

JD10K, I can assure you that a clean complexion will not inhibit your initial application to the BAA (Burger Aviation Authority)

Goldfinger 9th Jun 2004 16:20

I just want to flip burgers for the uniform.

Preferably a shiny orange uniform, red isn't too bad, but i'd never know if it was tomato sauce or I'd cut myself on the burger flipping tools.

What kind of uniform do you guys & girls get to wear......

However, it disappoints me that everyone wants to aspire to McDonalds and Burger King. What's wrong with the mobile kebab/chip/burger vans ehh.

Remember that even after years of washing lettuce and putting th bins out, people still get promoted to the RH of a nice shiny Mk5 Flamemaster Stainless steel grill and hob. I understand that they get designed with autogrill now....niceeeee

Goldfinger:ok:

Flying Farmer 9th Jun 2004 16:40

Glad to see most still have a sense of humor, mine had just departed until this thred came along.
Now can anyone in the know tell me how to convert my ratings in to something usefull :{ and when does Mac whoever they r start the next conversion course :}

ACW 335 9th Jun 2004 17:20

McDonalds are recruiting all the time so never fear!


Yes we have autogrills now, so it takes off the workload on long trips

High Wing Drifter 9th Jun 2004 17:26

Burgers before Boeings? The phrase "Out of the frying pan and into the fire" springs to mind!

:8

JohnnyPharm 9th Jun 2004 17:46

Flying Farmer

Can't agree with you more. The great british sense of humour is not dead. Most of here are prepared to gamble the price of a house (well ex L.A. house) on our dream, with no guarantees, yet we can still have a good laugh at our self.

gooneydog 9th Jun 2004 17:56

Are they considered a Friar or a chipmonk ???

Tee 9th Jun 2004 21:36

Stop moaning and be grateful that you're getting any kind of frying! I might NEVER achieve my dream of frying for MacDonalds because I'm colour blind and I can't tell the difference between the lettuce and the tomatoes.

I know I would be good if they would just give me the chance.

Global Pilot 10th Jun 2004 07:13

Very important to be able to tell the difference between lettuce and tomatoes by sight in McDs because you certainly can't rely on your taste buds!

747 Downwind 10th Jun 2004 07:40

Great to see the notoriously dry British humour being displayed at times of intense hardship: quintacentially British trait that it is- keep it up boys:ok:

To those who clearly can't take the light hearted humour :mad: :mad: :mad: :*

p.s: my first post... yeah:O

MAX 10th Jun 2004 08:10

they dont make em like they used to...
 
I reflect back on the good old days when I used to fry for an independent Burger shop. Sure our burgers were smaller and more expensive but they were gourmet with a high class clientelle. They never worked me too hard and the manager on the left of the chip fryer was a good friend.

Having now made the move to one of the Major outlets I find I am having to fry up a storm like a one armed burger flipper. Its a 24 hour job now with many a night shift serving to the wee wee hours of the morning. I have found the quality of training to be excellent but the actual 'meal deal' we offer the customer certainly needs some improving. Sadly, being a large company, the voice of a lowly griller mostly remains unheard.

Please Ladies and Gents, enjoy your various frying moments as you progress up the ladder. Never take them for granted as sometimes the burger on the other side of the road looks a lot juicier. I can, however, guarantee nothing beats watching the sun rise over the cash register after a long night of frying. ;)

MAX:cool:

covec 10th Jun 2004 09:35

Does anyone have any details about MacDonalds sim check and interview questions?

I ask because I failed a Big Mac interview once - I admitted to preferring a good Indian over a burger any day.

Any info much appreciated.

-<M4v3r1ck>- 10th Jun 2004 09:51

I too would like some advice. I am fortunate enough to be in a position to apply to the McDonalds Sponsored Cadet Scheme and just wanted any feedback from those who have been through the assessment. I'm happy with the format of stages 1-3 (basic frying aptitude, personality profile, company knowledge, etc.) but it's Stage 4 (the sim check) I'm a little concerned about.

I understand it involves following precision grilling instructions from the instructor whilst s/he tests your "spare capacity" by getting you to tot up the cost of orders and the like? I've even heard horror stories of them simulating a blocked gas pipe or failing it all together on you? Obviously I'm a little concerned (my actual frying experience is limited: a couple of introductory fry-ups a few months back) so any info much appreciated.

Also, has anyone got demo questions for the technical interview at stage 2? I assume its pretty standard stuff e.g. rate of heating calcs, overbearing-4-star-supervisor who wants to push the limits of the grill etc.???

Cheers again,

Wannabe Mav

Northern Highflyer 10th Jun 2004 09:55

Guys 'n' girls

Are you sure you want to do this ? Too many people live the dream and think this is a glamorous job. I would suggest you take off your rose tinted specs and see it for what it is. Do you really want to get up at 7 for the early start, spending all day on your feet and then being asked to do overtime, not getting home until way after dark ?

Management are undermining conditions all the time, the company have stopped providing free meals (ok admitted that's probably a good thing), and now they are insisting that you live within an hours drive of where you are based so that you aren't fatigued.

The job is tough on relationships, and many often go to the wall due to the fact you smell like a Big Mac all the time. If you do go into it make sure you have a VERY understanding partner.

Once the novelty wears off you will see what I mean. Better to get a job in the city and spend your weekends at a BBQ, grilling for fun.

Johnny

We have to laugh to stop us thinking too much about what we have spent/are spending, which would make us cry. :{

ACW

Being in charge of the floor (or ramp as we like to call it), do you get to direct the guy with the mop and bucket round the tables using a couple of table tennis bats ? :E


PS - I hear that French Company, Airburger are designing a new product, the A380 megaburger. It is so big they are having to extend all the grills to fit it in..........watch this space. :ok:

-<M4v3r1ck>- 10th Jun 2004 10:10

Northern Highflyer,

I, and many like me, have wanted this for a loooooong time. We're not all naive to the downsides of the profession but we have frying in our blood and simply must do it.

Mav

V- 5 10th Jun 2004 10:28

Think you have it rough do you ?
 
Burger Flipping studies : 100%
Sweeping studies : 100%
Saying "you got it!" studies :100%
Wearing hair net studies : 100%
Acne development studies :100%
Grease cleaning studies :100%
Slow movement studies :100%
Glazed look studies :100%
Saying "would yo like to go large?" studies :100%

Burger Test 1 : Grade 1
Burger Test 2 : Grade 1
Burger Test 3 : Grade 1
Burger Test 4 : Grade 1
Burger Test 5 : Grade 1

Burger Rating : FIRST TIME PASS


NOT ONE BLOODY PFO LETTER, WHERE'S THE JUSTICE I ASK YOU!!!



:mad:

Northern Highflyer 10th Jun 2004 10:43

Mav

I accept it does have it's plus sides. The view out the window can be fantastic, especially when it's hot and sunny outside. :E :cool:


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