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Derv 24th Nov 2003 20:17

Loganair application
 
Can anyone tell me whether Loganair normally reply to application forms? i.e. does no answer mean they are not interested?

DB6 25th Nov 2003 01:43

They acknowledge receipt with a postcard, but it can take a while.

Man Flex 25th Nov 2003 01:44

Loganair application
 
You seem to imply that Loganair now have an application form. Is that the case? If not and you have only sent a CV then don't expect to hear from them unless it is a call to interview. They're never short of wannabies!

Flypuppy 25th Nov 2003 17:59

Man Flex,

The have a PDF Application Form which you are supposed to print out and fillin then send it to them by snail mail.

Their website does say in big red letters though:

Loganair is not recruiting at the moment

Due to the large number of applications received, we can only accept applications in writing. We would appreciate it if you did not telephone to enquire about Pilot recruitment.

witchdoctor 25th Nov 2003 18:09

They always ask you not to phone, and apparently the CP gets a bit annoyed with those who insist on phoning anyway. Understandable.

Suggest you check out ppjn.com for the latest as it ties in with what I have heard and differs from flypuppy's info.

Flypuppy 25th Nov 2003 18:26

witchdoctor,

Have heard that Logan have taken on about half a dozen people recently. Which ties in with the info on www.ppjn.com

The Employment Situation

2 F/O's in December (probably already appointed) 4 Saab courses booked each for January, Feb and March. N.B. Some of these may be filled internally with people moving fleets but there should be quite a few new recruits.

Outlook: May depend on whether the company take over any of the ATP routes that Citi Express have just announced they will stop operating in March 2004.
Rumour is they expect to lose more experienced people to the likes of Ryan and EZY. That will have a knock on effect as F/O's move up to command.

Can't do any harm to send an application form in, you never know when they might be looking for people.

I was only repeating what is currently on the Loganair website.

Man Flex 25th Nov 2003 21:04

Flypuppy is spot on. Not only do Loganair expect to get these ex-BRAL routes in the new year but there has been a strong rumour that they were promised them as far back as 1999/2000.

There will be continuing recruitment there over the next few months both to cover losses to the big orange treehouse and to crew the new aircraft. One new Saab is imminent. How many others will be required to operate GLA-SYY and GLA-ABZ-LSI? These routes are presently operated by ATP and Jetstream 41 respectively.

in-2-wind 26th Nov 2003 04:33

Hi guys,

Recieved the forms, completed and returned them a couple of months back and got a post card recipt a few days later. Have heard nothing since??

good luck and fingers crossed!:)

windy

Man Flex 26th Nov 2003 17:48

Jetstream 41 aka ATP
 
Apologies Mr G for my lapse.

I whole heartedly agree with you regarding operating into LSI especially at this time of year! But heh, great experience for these wannabies who want to see if they have the 'right stuff'.

Not for the faint hearted (as I have said before in another thread)!

Derv 26th Nov 2003 18:35

Thanks for all the replies.

I sent in an application form instead of a C.V. for 2 reasons:
1) They ask you to complete the application form on the internet and I always think its a good idea to do what they tell you to do
2) An application form gives you more chance to say why you want to work for them, and its less easy to ignore than a CV.

Fingers crossed

Derv

Luke SkyToddler 27th Nov 2003 03:35

*with look of purest innocence* I thought it was KOI that Loganair had problems with?

And I could swear blind there was an ATP went off the end of 27 at LSI one dark and stormy night many years ago, n'est ce pas?

Anyway Logan ARE recruiting, they rang a mate of mine the other day, unfortunately Scotairways recruited him a couple of hours earlier :p

It's getting quite difficult to find an unemployed scots wannabe these days ... it's a pity that those soft southern nancy boys are so disliked by scottish chief pilots or there'd be jobs for everyone :E

boeingbus2002 27th Nov 2003 05:50

Derv,
I too sent the application form a few months ago. No reply either.
Im starting to think if it was lost in the post or sent to the wrong address! (As was a receipt postcard form another company!!)

Man Flex 27th Nov 2003 16:39

The best things come to those who wait
 
Try to be patient guys. If they are interested in you then they will be in touch.

I am just a little curious as to what experience level each of you have. Not that it matters with Loganair as they take anyone with a license but in my day the vast majority of recruits were flying instructors from local schools. I'm guessing that this is no longer the case.

rawmac 27th Nov 2003 18:36

Man Flex - shouldn't that be a licence old boy!

Depends on what fleet, as a significant amount of experience is required on the Islander - along with a European licence of course.

Tinstaafl 27th Nov 2003 21:41

2000 hrs for the Islander. Can be reduced by 500 or so for someone already in the company transferring on to it.

Once on the Islander you've buckley's chance of getting off it.

DB6 27th Nov 2003 23:13

Manflex, it's still the case. I don't think they're interested in people from Darn Sarf. All the people I know of who've been recruited recently are based in Scotland or Geordieland, most of them instructors ;) .

Firestorm 28th Nov 2003 00:25

They even took me. And I'm well English (to them - British to civilised people). Definitely no softy though :E ;)

Goldfinger 28th Nov 2003 00:34

Sounds like positive descrimination against those with a better sun-tan.

Shirley, if lots of Logan Air pilots are going off to Orangeland, it doesn't really matter whether new recruits come from Scotland or Cornwall ?? If a pilot has the capability and a positive attitude, then they ought to be given a fair crack at the whip.

FlyBe have taken on a load of ex-SAS pilots (I think, don't blast me if I'm wrong). If they don't mind where they get their crew from how come the strict code upp norf.

Its too bleedin expensive to live in the Sarf anyway, I wouldn't mind getting away from the smog & traffic.

:rolleyes:

Flypuppy 28th Nov 2003 01:12


If a pilot has the capability and a positive attitude, then they ought to be given a fair crack at the whip.
I vaugely remember someone telling me that historically, a very large percentage of pilots who leave Logan within the first couple of years of working for the company are from south of 55ºN. Hence the reluctance to employ from outside the Porridge Curtain.

I could be wildly off the mark on that one, so don't shoot me down on it. Two of the previous posters are evidence it isn't a blanket ban anyway.

Luke SkyToddler 28th Nov 2003 02:41

Well the secret is out as of today ... all the Citiexpress ATP's and their associated routes are being transferred to Loganair effective next march.

Don't know if all the ATP crews and engineers are going with them, but the existing Loganair pay structure would surely need a radical overhaul to attract ATP drivers?

Wild rumour and conjecture is flying around everywhere, but I say get that CV update in first and ask questions later :cool:


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