Loganair application
Can anyone tell me whether Loganair normally reply to application forms? i.e. does no answer mean they are not interested?
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They acknowledge receipt with a postcard, but it can take a while.
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Loganair application
You seem to imply that Loganair now have an application form. Is that the case? If not and you have only sent a CV then don't expect to hear from them unless it is a call to interview. They're never short of wannabies!
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Man Flex,
The have a PDF Application Form which you are supposed to print out and fillin then send it to them by snail mail. Their website does say in big red letters though: Loganair is not recruiting at the moment Due to the large number of applications received, we can only accept applications in writing. We would appreciate it if you did not telephone to enquire about Pilot recruitment. |
They always ask you not to phone, and apparently the CP gets a bit annoyed with those who insist on phoning anyway. Understandable.
Suggest you check out ppjn.com for the latest as it ties in with what I have heard and differs from flypuppy's info. |
witchdoctor,
Have heard that Logan have taken on about half a dozen people recently. Which ties in with the info on www.ppjn.com The Employment Situation 2 F/O's in December (probably already appointed) 4 Saab courses booked each for January, Feb and March. N.B. Some of these may be filled internally with people moving fleets but there should be quite a few new recruits. Outlook: May depend on whether the company take over any of the ATP routes that Citi Express have just announced they will stop operating in March 2004. Can't do any harm to send an application form in, you never know when they might be looking for people. I was only repeating what is currently on the Loganair website. |
Flypuppy is spot on. Not only do Loganair expect to get these ex-BRAL routes in the new year but there has been a strong rumour that they were promised them as far back as 1999/2000.
There will be continuing recruitment there over the next few months both to cover losses to the big orange treehouse and to crew the new aircraft. One new Saab is imminent. How many others will be required to operate GLA-SYY and GLA-ABZ-LSI? These routes are presently operated by ATP and Jetstream 41 respectively. |
Hi guys,
Recieved the forms, completed and returned them a couple of months back and got a post card recipt a few days later. Have heard nothing since?? good luck and fingers crossed!:) windy |
Jetstream 41 aka ATP
Apologies Mr G for my lapse.
I whole heartedly agree with you regarding operating into LSI especially at this time of year! But heh, great experience for these wannabies who want to see if they have the 'right stuff'. Not for the faint hearted (as I have said before in another thread)! |
Thanks for all the replies.
I sent in an application form instead of a C.V. for 2 reasons: 1) They ask you to complete the application form on the internet and I always think its a good idea to do what they tell you to do 2) An application form gives you more chance to say why you want to work for them, and its less easy to ignore than a CV. Fingers crossed Derv |
*with look of purest innocence* I thought it was KOI that Loganair had problems with?
And I could swear blind there was an ATP went off the end of 27 at LSI one dark and stormy night many years ago, n'est ce pas? Anyway Logan ARE recruiting, they rang a mate of mine the other day, unfortunately Scotairways recruited him a couple of hours earlier :p It's getting quite difficult to find an unemployed scots wannabe these days ... it's a pity that those soft southern nancy boys are so disliked by scottish chief pilots or there'd be jobs for everyone :E |
Derv,
I too sent the application form a few months ago. No reply either. Im starting to think if it was lost in the post or sent to the wrong address! (As was a receipt postcard form another company!!) |
The best things come to those who wait
Try to be patient guys. If they are interested in you then they will be in touch.
I am just a little curious as to what experience level each of you have. Not that it matters with Loganair as they take anyone with a license but in my day the vast majority of recruits were flying instructors from local schools. I'm guessing that this is no longer the case. |
Man Flex - shouldn't that be a licence old boy!
Depends on what fleet, as a significant amount of experience is required on the Islander - along with a European licence of course. |
2000 hrs for the Islander. Can be reduced by 500 or so for someone already in the company transferring on to it.
Once on the Islander you've buckley's chance of getting off it. |
Manflex, it's still the case. I don't think they're interested in people from Darn Sarf. All the people I know of who've been recruited recently are based in Scotland or Geordieland, most of them instructors ;) .
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They even took me. And I'm well English (to them - British to civilised people). Definitely no softy though :E ;)
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Sounds like positive descrimination against those with a better sun-tan.
Shirley, if lots of Logan Air pilots are going off to Orangeland, it doesn't really matter whether new recruits come from Scotland or Cornwall ?? If a pilot has the capability and a positive attitude, then they ought to be given a fair crack at the whip. FlyBe have taken on a load of ex-SAS pilots (I think, don't blast me if I'm wrong). If they don't mind where they get their crew from how come the strict code upp norf. Its too bleedin expensive to live in the Sarf anyway, I wouldn't mind getting away from the smog & traffic. :rolleyes: |
If a pilot has the capability and a positive attitude, then they ought to be given a fair crack at the whip. I could be wildly off the mark on that one, so don't shoot me down on it. Two of the previous posters are evidence it isn't a blanket ban anyway. |
Well the secret is out as of today ... all the Citiexpress ATP's and their associated routes are being transferred to Loganair effective next march.
Don't know if all the ATP crews and engineers are going with them, but the existing Loganair pay structure would surely need a radical overhaul to attract ATP drivers? Wild rumour and conjecture is flying around everywhere, but I say get that CV update in first and ask questions later :cool: |
I think they are looking for applicants to show that they are happy living up North.
Must be a big culture shock for a southern woofter moving. Getting used to a diet of deep fried pizzas. Being able to buy a 5 bedroomed house for the same price as a 1 bedroomed flat. Only 20min drive until your in the wilderness. Decent pubs Scottish women having a higher sperm count than most men in the SE etc MJ |
postcard from scotland
After filling out the form and sending it by snailmail I was positively surprised that within two weeks' time I received an anwer from loganair in the form of the infamous "postcard".
Maybe I should have used a matrix-printer iso a laserjet, just to make a point. Anyway that is all besides the point. Does anyone have news about what they are generally looking for in pilots and what the conditions are like ? Pay, rostering etc.. To me it seems like an interesting enough place to work. |
Just a short question: Are there any non-british pilots working for Loganair?
/FS |
I think there is Canadian bloke flys the twotter.
MJ |
As far as I am aware there is at least 1x Frenchman, 1x Canadian, 3x Antipodeans (still can't tell the accents apart I'm afraid!!) and a couple of other nationalities aswell.
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LOGANAIR
J A Victim is essentially correct.
The recruitment is driven by: 1. Mainly FOs deciding it is time to fly a jet. ATPL with 1000+ hours on the Saab - first generation EFIS. An ideal training platform, combined with interesting weather up north, especially with what was experienced last Sunday. Not for the faint hearted. 2. The great unknown is what will happen once the wet leases on the four ATPs [ with 7 new routes for Logibear ] come to an end. Should they all go back from whence they came, and additional Saabs are acquired, then recruitment for junior bird men will be good. Use the application form on the website; if you are not in full time flying employment, keep current - very important. Keep those skills polished. |
Not sure if this is of any use, but they have been line training this past week.
Regards JAV |
ecj,
How does one keep current with an IR restricted to multi crew only??? Any 737 to rent with a captain to fly a few circuits? Please guys tell me how to do it cause im heading for a black hole...im legally current but not flying..if im not flying im not being hired and if im not hired im not flying..hmmm..thats sounds like sh...to me. Maybe JAC willd o the trick:yuk: :yuk: :yuk: M.85 |
Two obvious options that occur to me, M.85
You go to one of the IR flying schools and fly a single-pilot IR renewal in their sim. Or, if you must have it multi crew, you just ask at that same flying school if you can fly with one of their sim instructors being the other crew member. Half of them are retired airline captains anyway. |
M.85, current in Loganair terms means 1) current IR and 2) 15 hrs in aeroplanes (not simulators) in previous 12 months. That can be C152 or B737, or a mixture of both.
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Thanks..
I better go and fly 14 hours of C152 if THAT makes the difference:{ :E Thanks for the info anyways. M.85 Lukesky, Thanks to you too...the second option sounds like the best one.. Ill still have to rent a 737 sim(at least i know a TRE)to keep the type current.. Or maybe ill fork out 22000£ for line training...JUST KIDDING!!! :E M.85 |
I know a Yorkshireman who flies for them.
Still, he does have to come home every now and then for a warm beer and a cold pork pie;) |
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