do ryanair bond their FO's?
do ryanair bond their FO's?
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I think they do; one of my mates is doing his 738 type-rating (of course at his expense - 22K) for them with CAE in AMS at the moment and he discovered (after he started) that he would be bonded anyway...
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How can they possibly bond you if you've already paid them for your TR?
FougaMagister - did your mate find said bond in the small print? If yes, did he not check what was put in front of him before signing it???!
My god, this is ****ed up little world!
FougaMagister - did your mate find said bond in the small print? If yes, did he not check what was put in front of him before signing it???!
My god, this is ****ed up little world!
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Loyalty
Seems to me that the whole bonding issue is as much about loyalty (or absence there of) as loss protection.
While the original idea of bonding was to protect a company from losing a great deal of money if the trainee walked after being trained up, companies that inspire little or no loyalty now use bonding as a way of hanging onto their pilots.
I know of a company flying BN2s that bonds you for 12 months/12,000 pounds sterling (pro rata). This is after going to the grand extent of having not charged you for doing your OPC. All of the line training is done on revenue earning flights. Well, I guess it's better than FR who actually charge you for training on revenue earning flights.
While the original idea of bonding was to protect a company from losing a great deal of money if the trainee walked after being trained up, companies that inspire little or no loyalty now use bonding as a way of hanging onto their pilots.
I know of a company flying BN2s that bonds you for 12 months/12,000 pounds sterling (pro rata). This is after going to the grand extent of having not charged you for doing your OPC. All of the line training is done on revenue earning flights. Well, I guess it's better than FR who actually charge you for training on revenue earning flights.
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Isn't bonding someone who has paid for their own training against the law? Surely it's a restriction of labour movement, a bit like with pro footballers when their club didn't want them any more but didn't want anyone else to have them whilst they were still in contract.
When I went to DHL they bonded type rated pilots for a six month period to cover 'training costs'. I must admit at the time I felt that was a little unreasonable considering the thousands I was saving them by having the type-rating already, but at least it was for a sensible time scale during which they had recouped their costs for the initial outlay.
Putting a bond on someone who has paid for the type rating outright, for a number of years and for the cost of that type rating seems unreasonable. Would not a court of law take that opinion?
Trouble is the old nugget of do you want to sue an airline and then apply for a job elsewhere......................
PP
When I went to DHL they bonded type rated pilots for a six month period to cover 'training costs'. I must admit at the time I felt that was a little unreasonable considering the thousands I was saving them by having the type-rating already, but at least it was for a sensible time scale during which they had recouped their costs for the initial outlay.
Putting a bond on someone who has paid for the type rating outright, for a number of years and for the cost of that type rating seems unreasonable. Would not a court of law take that opinion?
Trouble is the old nugget of do you want to sue an airline and then apply for a job elsewhere......................
PP
