HOW does one go about this Catch 22 situation??
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HOW does one go about this Catch 22 situation??
As a Canadian citizen how should one go about getting a work permit in the UK? here is the catch--Get a job & be Sponsored!! GO get a workpermit first then job-- So what the heck should one do?This who came first chicken or egg is blowing my mind.
I thought Canadians were a favoured lot with the Brits! OR am I being presumptious?
I am serious please advise-
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I thought Canadians were a favoured lot with the Brits! OR am I being presumptious?
I am serious please advise-
Thanks
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Moonraker,
Firstly, were either of you parents or grandparents born in the UK? If so you are favoured and you can have a work permit without sponsorship and with minimum fuss. Ask the British High Commission in Ottawa about an Ancestry Visa. They give you full work rights for three years, after which usually follows permanent residency,ususally followed soon after by the offer of full citizenship. The High Commission in Ottawa takes about 2 days to process them I've been told.
Other than that I'm afraid that the UK doesn't have any Commonwealth preference any more, probably because UK citizens get no preference in the Canadian immigration system. I'm afraid you have to join the queue with everyone else and see if you can get enough points together to be eligible for the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme .
As Splat said, immigration in general is a very sensitive subject here at the moment (although not really immigration of Canadians, I hasten to add).
good luck!
foggy.
Firstly, were either of you parents or grandparents born in the UK? If so you are favoured and you can have a work permit without sponsorship and with minimum fuss. Ask the British High Commission in Ottawa about an Ancestry Visa. They give you full work rights for three years, after which usually follows permanent residency,ususally followed soon after by the offer of full citizenship. The High Commission in Ottawa takes about 2 days to process them I've been told.
Other than that I'm afraid that the UK doesn't have any Commonwealth preference any more, probably because UK citizens get no preference in the Canadian immigration system. I'm afraid you have to join the queue with everyone else and see if you can get enough points together to be eligible for the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme .
As Splat said, immigration in general is a very sensitive subject here at the moment (although not really immigration of Canadians, I hasten to add).
good luck!
foggy.
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Moonraker,
Is your father born in the UK? If so, you are eligible for a British Passport. If your mother or grandparents were/are British then you qualify for UK Ancestry visa, valid for 4 years (renewable). After another year on top of that, you can then apply for permanent residency.
If you have none of the above, then you are in for one heck of a time trying to emigrate.
'Fraid this commonwealth preferential thing went out the window 'bout the time Britain joined the EU.....
To get a sponsored emigration thing, the UK employer must prove to the Immigration department that there's no UK resident that can do the job and have advertised that position prominently for the past 6 months.
Is your father born in the UK? If so, you are eligible for a British Passport. If your mother or grandparents were/are British then you qualify for UK Ancestry visa, valid for 4 years (renewable). After another year on top of that, you can then apply for permanent residency.
If you have none of the above, then you are in for one heck of a time trying to emigrate.
'Fraid this commonwealth preferential thing went out the window 'bout the time Britain joined the EU.....
To get a sponsored emigration thing, the UK employer must prove to the Immigration department that there's no UK resident that can do the job and have advertised that position prominently for the past 6 months.
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By the way, your ancestors do not have to be born in the UK, if you can trace ancestry back to any EU country recently enough to get a passport then you will automatically have the right to live and work here. Otherwise, you're out of luck, or at least it is as difficult as trying to immigrate to any other country.
I'm surprised that it has to be your father and not your mother who was born in the uk, seems a little outdated for a 'progressive' country in this day and age.
I know lots of commonwealth citizens who have work permits for the uk, but thats because they are working in a specialised field with a shortage of skilled workers, which certainly doesn't apply to aviation!
There are loads of Brits in Canada but I think most of them came over quite a few years back and immigration policies over there have tightened up a bit as well.
I'm surprised that it has to be your father and not your mother who was born in the uk, seems a little outdated for a 'progressive' country in this day and age.
I know lots of commonwealth citizens who have work permits for the uk, but thats because they are working in a specialised field with a shortage of skilled workers, which certainly doesn't apply to aviation!
There are loads of Brits in Canada but I think most of them came over quite a few years back and immigration policies over there have tightened up a bit as well.
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no EU citizen, please stay away!
why should we let enter OZ, canadian and US citizen in the EU, when these countries don't let us fly even small planes in some flight schools.(no green card=no job)
If EU immigration becomes more restrictive, it s because these damn countries have started to change their Immigration laws to not let EU citizen work in their countries to log the time we needed, and we, stupid we are, have let these guys for years(15 years nat least) take our best jobs cuz they have the 2000h requested by our airlines.
so, US, canadian, and OZ guy, stay in your countries, there is no job for you here anymore, and our new immigration laws dont want to see you anyway!I just try to be fair! since the 9/11 lot of things have change, in our advantage (like the euro money...).
if you want work here, get a EU green card first! (ah ,ah, you are screwed, EU green card doesnt exist)
If EU immigration becomes more restrictive, it s because these damn countries have started to change their Immigration laws to not let EU citizen work in their countries to log the time we needed, and we, stupid we are, have let these guys for years(15 years nat least) take our best jobs cuz they have the 2000h requested by our airlines.
so, US, canadian, and OZ guy, stay in your countries, there is no job for you here anymore, and our new immigration laws dont want to see you anyway!I just try to be fair! since the 9/11 lot of things have change, in our advantage (like the euro money...).
if you want work here, get a EU green card first! (ah ,ah, you are screwed, EU green card doesnt exist)
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ummm... neither does a canadian 'green card' exist. much of your post may apply to the US but not australia and canada. the reason that many people can get eu citizenship is that these countries have in the past absorbed many immigrants from europe, who's children now have the right to return. everyone else just has to apply through the regular channels, which makes things a bit more difficult, but generally equivalent for people going either way. i can understand the frustration it causes when people percieve an inequality of policy, but threatening people to stay away won't work. if people immigrate legally they have just as much legal 'right' to citizenship as someone who happened to be born here.
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yeah, thats the probleme, people marry EU citizen to work in europe , like people from EU marry US or Canadian citizen to work there.
it s sad to see that young generation have to be married to work in an other country. I would not mind to see a US guy to take my job, if I can take his job. But I can not take his wife and he cannot take mine.
at the end, what we do, we try to screw the immigration system and everybody pay at the end.
I have seen lot fo guys asking me how to go to the US.At the end, they come back here, cuz the only way and the best way to move in a foreign country is to buy a green card trough a marriage .we live in a sick world!
it s sad to see that young generation have to be married to work in an other country. I would not mind to see a US guy to take my job, if I can take his job. But I can not take his wife and he cannot take mine.
at the end, what we do, we try to screw the immigration system and everybody pay at the end.
I have seen lot fo guys asking me how to go to the US.At the end, they come back here, cuz the only way and the best way to move in a foreign country is to buy a green card trough a marriage .we live in a sick world!
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I know what you mean!! Its the same thing here in theUk for us who want job in the US and in canada.
No company will employ you unless you have a permit to work. You cannot get a permit unless a company spnosers you! then you have to have specialised knowledge etc..etc...as you say catch 22.
I am fortunate enough to have obtained this for working in the US. Only because my comapny opened another office there and I will be looking after it. Just very lucky. Otherwise i would be stuck in the UK.
I wish you luck - but keep at it.
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No company will employ you unless you have a permit to work. You cannot get a permit unless a company spnosers you! then you have to have specialised knowledge etc..etc...as you say catch 22.
I am fortunate enough to have obtained this for working in the US. Only because my comapny opened another office there and I will be looking after it. Just very lucky. Otherwise i would be stuck in the UK.
I wish you luck - but keep at it.
:-))
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Reading all the posts in response has made me wonder!what my next step should be!
Anyway I am just going to push on & on till I push someone!Thanks, but marriage is not on my cards yet .
Anyway I am just going to push on & on till I push someone!Thanks, but marriage is not on my cards yet .
