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Old 9th Feb 2007, 15:26
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8 pages !! That's nothing. We once had one from a German chap of nearly 40 pages. We still have it for comedy value (I may even read it one day).
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Old 9th Feb 2007, 15:32
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so who should i be sending my 1 page cv to rapa pilot?? sorry, but i just couldnt resisit asking who recruiting!
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Old 9th Feb 2007, 16:07
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Rapa,

Mate, all they are doing is weeding themselves out for you. Anyone who hasnt worked out yet that their CV needs to be 1 page long and minus their hobbies probably isnt bright enough to get a job flying anyway. We all know what employers want and its been said here many times before.
If you are employing, first impressions count big time so why not listen to yours.

Or......Is your company so desperate for pilots you have to read the crap CVs. That really would be a first for aviation in this day and age!

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Old 9th Feb 2007, 16:20
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Reminds me of a chief pilot picking up half the mountain of CVs on his desk and putting them straight in the bin.
His secretary said '"you can't do that those poor guys are looking for a job!"
His response was "I don't want unlucky pilots working for this airline and they were unlucky!"

Happy days
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Old 9th Feb 2007, 16:24
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8 pages or 40 pages!!
anyway it is not very surprising... because once I saw a CV from Belgian, 2 pages...
my europeans friends I do not know your customs about looking for a job but i can say you in France if you send a cv with 2 pages, it will go directly to trash...
CV in one page, that's all.
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Old 9th Feb 2007, 17:18
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Thumbs down

If said newly qualified pilots are sending in CVs going into 2/3/4 pages it could be due to such a requirement for their previous industry and therefore probably more down to lack of knowledge about what aviation HR depts require rather than showing off. My current CV uses size 8 fonts and goes into it's 4th page (only just). Why? Well, in the IT sector your CV goes into a database that is queried for key terms, i.e. brands and technologies. The more you have, the more likely it is you will be mail-shotted by a recruiter and they really don't mind going through such CVs. I've had over 10 interviews and 3 jobs with it. Not a problem.

If the aviation HR depts want a 1 page CV, that's fine by me, although I do think it's rediculous as such little information may as well be conveyed in an email signature.

His response was "I don't want unlucky pilots working for this airline and they were unlucky!"
That's just abusing one's power! Typical of this industry. So there you are. A different take on the subject for you.
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Old 10th Feb 2007, 02:13
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Cool

"I don't want unlucky pilots working for this airline and they were unlucky!"
That's just abusing one's power!
Blooming funny though....
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Old 10th Feb 2007, 19:22
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CV's

CV's dont really matter.

It's who you know, how many hours and the type of experience you have in this game.

Or, just good luck !!
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Old 10th Feb 2007, 20:16
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I haven't been involved in airline recruitment, but have done a bit in IT.

Any CV with 'can work alone AND in a team' goes straight in the bin.

If you do decide to start of with one of those personal statements, at least try to come up with something original.

PS: got asked by an HR chap in an interview a couple of years ago (IT, not flying) "Are you a team player?"

Much to the amusement of my prospective boss (a techie) I answered: "If I knew I wasn't, do you think I'd say 'no' during a job interview?"

I got the job.
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Old 10th Feb 2007, 20:36
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Do not under any circumstances confuse an aviation CV with one for any other kind of employment. Airlines are not after personal advertisements of talent, qualities and such like, simply a statement of experience and (aviation) employment or (brief) training history. There is plenty of information within this thread and the other linked to from the 'READ THIS FIRST' sticky. Read it!

As RAPA Pilot says, one page. If I can do it, so can anyone!

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Old 11th Feb 2007, 08:16
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ABO994. you are right and wrong. Yes the industry is very small and the longer you are in it the smaller it gets as you make contacts. I meet many people who know someone somewhere who worked with so and so who was such and suches instructor and so on. Having said that if you are new to the business then your only advertising window is the blind CV notwithstanding online applications, and thats exactly how I got my break. My Chief constantly reminds me of how lucky I was because my CV was on the top of the pile, he phoned me at 19:30 hrs and I started the next day, interview was over the phone. He was desperate and I was available.(I'm talking jobs here ). There again I remind him of how lucky he is to have such a great employee .
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Old 27th Apr 2007, 15:50
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CV Internet ettiquette

When asked to upload your CV via a company website (not fill in the online form). Should I be uploading a cover letter also or just load up the standard pilot one page CV.
Any thoughts?
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Old 30th Apr 2007, 19:32
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Yep, just wondering the same thing! Should the cover letter be the email or an attachment to the email with the CV?

It was mentioned earlier in the thread but no response. Anyone with experience shed light?

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Old 30th Apr 2007, 19:40
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Type a very short covering letter addressed correctly with you hours and qualifications then attach your CV in word format.
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Old 18th Jun 2007, 17:07
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When sending a CV

Ok quick rant. Just been sorting cv's today.
1 Get the name of person you are writing to correct.
2 If this is a general mailshot make sure the letter in the envelope is for the same company as the address on the envelope.
3 Type letter/cv.
4 Structure your letter correctly.
5 Put on e-mail address.
6 Get the type of a/c a company operates correct.
7 Make sure cv is clear and easy to read.
8 Put hours on cv.
9 Put DOB on cv.
10 Have something interesting to say in letter or cv. 9 cv's saved from bin due to a decent letter or something that made us laugh. Especially if you are low hours.
About 35 cv's went into bin due to the first 8 reasons.
AD

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Old 18th Jun 2007, 17:57
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I hope you shredded them before binning them.

Too many people are careless with other people's personal information (and i doubt that many airline recruitment websites are secure).
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Old 18th Jun 2007, 18:09
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Jocundity? Knock a few grand of the SSTR and my agent will consider it. But at least I can continue to not mention my advanced years

Prompted by post below, are these points for real

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Old 18th Jun 2007, 18:46
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wow you would assume to any professional pilot these points are common sence
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Old 19th Jun 2007, 10:24
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Also avoid typing mistakes e.g. person you are writing too
as in 1. above
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Old 19th Jun 2007, 11:28
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Make sure a sentence makes complete sense.

2 If general mailshot make sure company in letter is in envelope for that company
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