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Old 20th Apr 2020, 06:19
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Race discrimination in european airlines ??

Hi gentlemen, i am tunisian and i have a european passeport, i have 35 years old . I want to start a career in aviation in europe . I decided to apply for many cadet pilot (like easy jet or wizz air programs )program that leads me to the RHS . I am also thinking about applying for european flight academy of Lufthansa group .
do you think guys that my arab appearances will be an obstacle for me ?
i will be thankful for your replies .
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 07:16
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Non-issue, I have met several French pilots of North African heritage. The only issue at the moment is the industry has just collapsed so your chances of getting any cadetship soon are probably non existent. However I would say your Tunisian heritage could be an advantage, if you did decide to self fund (when things recover) there was always work in Africa flying the ATR, especially in the countries that were previously French colonies; so in your position you would be far better off exploring regional flying opportunities in Africa than trying to pursue employment in Europe.




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Old 20th Apr 2020, 07:39
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Despite what EU legislation might say, your age (35? Last year it was 28 in a post??) not your appearance, is against you to join any sponsored scheme and that was before C-19 became a show stopper, and will remain so for some significant time.

Whilst you are not too old to succeed with the training, you will find it somewhat harder than someone ten year younger. Why is it only now that aviation appeals to you as an occupation?

Realistically the modular route would be your only viable option. Get the Class One Medical as your first task if you intend to proceed.
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 08:05
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Originally Posted by Futurepilot1991 View Post
Hi gentlemen, i am tunisian and i have a european passeport, i have 35 years old . I want to start a career in aviation in europe . I decided to apply for many cadet pilot (like easy jet or wizz air programs )program that leads me to the RHS . I am also thinking about applying for european flight academy of Lufthansa group .
do you think guys that my arab appearances will be an obstacle for me ?
i will be thankful for your replies .
I have worked in European aviation for 30 years and have seen and worked with people from all ethnic backgrounds.
Your problem is there will be no requirements for pilots for a number of years.
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 08:16
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I have read your posts and last year you were 28 and wanted to work in Canada. Why has this changed?
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 12:52
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Concerning the age , i am 28 .it was a mistake
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 12:58
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Probably a typo. His username suggests he is 29 years old this year. Or maybe he is asking for someone else.

Edit: oups sorry, Did not realise the OP replied while I was typing. xD

All the best in your jobs hunt. Tough time...
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 13:04
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Originally Posted by portsharbourflyer View Post
Non-issue, I have met several French pilots of North African heritage. The only issue at the moment is the industry has just collapsed so your chances of getting any cadetship soon are probably non existent. However I would say your Tunisian heritage could be an advantage, if you did decide to self fund (when things recover) there was always work in Africa flying the ATR, especially in the countries that were previously French colonies; so in your position you would be far better off exploring regional flying opportunities in Africa than trying to pursue employment in Europe.
Thank you sir
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 13:05
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Originally Posted by qwertyuiop View Post
I have worked in European aviation for 30 years and have seen and worked with people from all ethnic backgrounds.
Your problem is there will be no requirements for pilots for a number of years.
thank you sir
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 13:30
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I wouldn't hand over one penny to any training provider at the moment. Many are likely to go bust in the coming months and the chances of you finding a job in the next few years is close to zero.

Stay away from aviation. You'll lose everything.
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 13:49
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Originally Posted by Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP View Post
I wouldn't hand over one penny to any training provider at the moment. Many are likely to go bust in the coming months and the chances of you finding a job in the next few years is close to zero.

Stay away from aviation. You'll lose everything.
how much are the chances to get accepted into a cadet program now ? And how much chances are to get a job directly after a cadet program ?
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 14:22
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Originally Posted by Futurepilot1991 View Post
how much are the chances to get accepted into a cadet program now ? And how much chances are to get a job directly after a cadet program ?
right now? Zero. I would be absolutely amazed if there’s any legitimate cadet program anywhere in the world at the moment
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 14:23
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If you have a pulse, anyone will take your money. In fact, they would take it even if you didn't!

As for the chance of getting a job. I would realistically say zero chance.

My advice, don't throw your money away. You'll regret it.
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 14:29
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You are right now in one of, if not the most, challenging times for aviation in recent history. Your chances to get a job go from none to zero.
Many pilots have already lost their job in the past year. Many during the past month. Many will during the next year.
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 15:04
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Originally Posted by Futurepilot1991 View Post
how much are the chances to get accepted into a cadet program now ? And how much chances are to get a job directly after a cadet program ?
getting accepted into cadet program right now - no chances
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 16:04
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Please don't use that card for whatever difficulties you might encounter. I am also an 'immigrant' or was (when is someone not an immigrant anymore?), and I never had a problem neither during my training or finding a job or keeping a job. If you are respectful, polite, courteous (basically how any human being should be), you won't have a problem. Get the right attitude, don't blame your instructors if you don't perform well, look at yourself in the mirror, correct the situation, work harder. I knew a guy who was such a bad pilot, but thought everyone was a racist and used this excuse as the reason why he was not successful....pathetic.
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 16:39
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Originally Posted by Jumbo744 View Post
Please don't use that card for whatever difficulties you might encounter. I am also an 'immigrant' or was (when is someone not an immigrant anymore?), and I never had a problem neither during my training or finding a job or keeping a job. If you are respectful, polite, courteous (basically how any human being should be), you won't have a problem. Get the right attitude, don't blame your instructors if you don't perform well, look at yourself in the mirror, correct the situation, work harder. I knew a guy who was such a bad pilot, but thought everyone was a racist and used this excuse as the reason why he was not successful....pathetic.
Well, i am asking this question because many things had changed in aviation especially after 9-11 . Don't worry about me , i speak 4 langages, got my high school diploma with 15/20 ( the equivalent of 4.0 GPA) and i worked up to 14 hours per day during the last few years to get my training cost .
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 16:44
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Originally Posted by eimin View Post
You are right now in one of, if not the most, challenging times for aviation in recent history. Your chances to get a job go from none to zero.
Many pilots have already lost their job in the past year. Many during the past month. Many will during the next year.
This situation is only in european aviation or in all over the world??
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 16:56
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I am sorry to seem rude, but where have you lived in the past 2 months? Planet Mars?
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Old 20th Apr 2020, 17:38
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Originally Posted by Banana Joe View Post
I am sorry to seem rude, but where have you lived in the past 2 months? Planet Mars?
you're rude that's clear . If you have some mental illnesses then go see a doctor. I was asking about the situation before covid -19 and we know that this situation will not last forever . Airports will reopen again and aircrafts will fly again
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