Ryanair Sponsored Type Rating
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Earth
Posts: 667
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ryanair Sponsored Type Rating
https://www.cae.com/civil-aviation/a...g-type-rating/
Ryanair are delighted to announce a new SPONSORED type-rating programme! A first for low cost airlines, cadets will no longer pay a course fee of €29,500, this is being replaced by a one off, up front €5,000 payment and a 5 year reducing bond. Cadets will be paid a salary from day 1 of LINE TRAINING!
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Interesting news! Ryanair's shortage of pilots must be beginning to bite, the 5-year bond is evidently the big selling point from their point of view.
Whatever their reasons though, it's excellent news for cadets. IMO this scheme puts Ryanair into the league of "respectable" employers of cadet pilots along with Aer Lingus, Jet2, Flybe and a few others.
Never thought I'd be saying this, Ryanair are now offering a better deal to cadets than BA! Maybe BA recruitment should reflect on that....
Whatever their reasons though, it's excellent news for cadets. IMO this scheme puts Ryanair into the league of "respectable" employers of cadet pilots along with Aer Lingus, Jet2, Flybe and a few others.
Never thought I'd be saying this, Ryanair are now offering a better deal to cadets than BA! Maybe BA recruitment should reflect on that....
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I must say it is a nice surprise, I woudn't have to turn down the offer couple of months ago if this scheme were in place.
However I'm very curious about the conditions and the contract, a real improvement would be the end of contractor status, but I'm pretty sure that won't happened unless hell freezes over.
However I'm very curious about the conditions and the contract, a real improvement would be the end of contractor status, but I'm pretty sure that won't happened unless hell freezes over.
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Europe
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Over 700 cadets required per year for the foreseeable future. I was under the impression at the time of my opportunity that 29500E and 0 pay for many months was a step too far and financialy volitile! However; this new scheme seems to now be easily one of the best out there in Europe. High hours per year, oppotunity to MAX, a vast array of destination and bases alongside a competitive salary and great roster. @Sharklet7, I would assume the pay will be at a set rate for cadets now compared to hourly rate to offset their lost PROFIT they made on the TR.
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Europe
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by TangoAlphad
A TR doesn't cost what they charge. Ryanair profit off of what cadets pay.
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Europe
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by vin2001
is it the same application as the paid scheme? I failed the assessment back in June so I'm wondering whether I can make a new profile and have a 'fresh start'?
I know various people who have been called again within 12 months of the failed assessment. As long as you keep your documentation up to date there is a high chance youll be recalled.
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From speaking to a mate at Ryanair this morning. It seems the real cost of this new deal is a 10 euro per flying hour net cost to the employee. You only have to run the figures (based on circa 800 flying hours per year) to work out that this isn't a great deal. The new pilot will end up paying far more (in the long term) than he/she would've done under the previous arrangement.
I asked the question about how they can possibly bond freelance contractors, and was told that under the new deal the pilots will be actually be employees, but NOT employed by Ryanair. Apparently they'll be employed by a company called Bluesky Resources.
My friend has had sight of this new contract, and described it as being dreadfully punitive. One to avoid, unless you've no other option.
I asked the question about how they can possibly bond freelance contractors, and was told that under the new deal the pilots will be actually be employees, but NOT employed by Ryanair. Apparently they'll be employed by a company called Bluesky Resources.
My friend has had sight of this new contract, and described it as being dreadfully punitive. One to avoid, unless you've no other option.
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: London
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think this scheme should be targeted at guys who have prior experience in an airline, as had been mentioned, maybe the turboprop guys who actually know how to fly an aircraft would benefit from this option, then it would be fair to all.
I.e. if you have 1000+ hours in an airline they we want you and we'll cover your training costs
I.e. if you have 1000+ hours in an airline they we want you and we'll cover your training costs
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: uk
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I disagree this should only be targeted at people who have over 1000 hours for 'fairness'.
Life is not fair and whilst i do feel for the guys who have recently paid they went into this eyes wide open. Ultimately they will be free to move on if they want once they have sufficient hours to better jobs where as the bonded guys and girls wont.
The other side of the coin is up until now it has been unfair because it excludes many people based on not being able to raise the 29500 euros ;-)
Ultimately if we want the industry to move away from putting the cost of all training on the pilots and as such allow the profession to be more inclusive and not bent towards those with the ability to pay we should be thankful for every move towards that utopia.... and this is a move in the right direction.
Life is not fair and whilst i do feel for the guys who have recently paid they went into this eyes wide open. Ultimately they will be free to move on if they want once they have sufficient hours to better jobs where as the bonded guys and girls wont.
The other side of the coin is up until now it has been unfair because it excludes many people based on not being able to raise the 29500 euros ;-)
Ultimately if we want the industry to move away from putting the cost of all training on the pilots and as such allow the profession to be more inclusive and not bent towards those with the ability to pay we should be thankful for every move towards that utopia.... and this is a move in the right direction.
