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Old 19th Dec 2016, 16:53
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Congratulations to all those who have made it through!

I received my PFO email earlier, which leaves me quite bewilidered as to what they are really looking for!

I spent all but a day of the application window to ensure my application was written as well as it could have been. Double & Triple checked;

Recently completed my PPL + Night Rating.

Worked as Cabin Crew for three years (Short Haul, and now on Long Haul)

Meet the minimum education requirements.

Not sure what else would show such commitent to the industry and role! But never mind.

Best of luck in the second stages guys!
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 17:44
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Mine says unsuccessful but no email yet. How long do you have to wait to apply for another scheme?
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 09:44
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I just got rejected too.

Last year I got through to phase 4 interview with Virgin, which was the final 48/6000 odd.

The questions were the same this year so I used the same answers i wrote last year, with a few very minor tweaks to make it read better and bring it up to date.

I have 200 hours Gliding so no question I have the commitment to aviation.

I cant see how the goalposts have moved so much?
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 14:05
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Sadly, a rejection here as well. Disappointing but it just makes me more determined.

PPL (Air League scholarship) + Night rating. 6 years in airline / business jet ops. Variety of voluntary and extra-curricular activity.

I understand why but It's a real shame we cannot get feedback. It's the second year I've applied and the second time I've been rejected at stage 1. I'd love to know where I'm going wrong? My questions answered in the final section were seen by a few industry eyes before submission. I hoped I'd at least get to the Interview stage.

In the meantime though, onward and upwards!

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Old 20th Dec 2016, 14:24
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Originally Posted by BaronVonBarnstormer
I just got rejected too.

Last year I got through to phase 4 interview with Virgin, which was the final 48/6000 odd.

The questions were the same this year so I used the same answers i wrote last year, with a few very minor tweaks to make it read better and bring it up to date.

I have 200 hours Gliding so no question I have the commitment to aviation.

I cant see how the goalposts have moved so much?
I think using same answeres was the thing that let you down, Baron. I read many times on this forum: do not put the same answers twice! It may have been perceived as choosing a soft option or being lazy. Maybe those minor changes were not enough to show them how you have improved since previous application.
On the other hand, they stated in rejection emails (unfortunately I received one...) that the response to porgramme was "unprecedented" and "overall standard was fantastic"
It's obvious that they had to reject plethora great applications due to limits of candidates for stage 2. And that was very demanding task for the selection team. Eventually that's only 12 places we're competing for, so hundreds of us will feel underestimated and disappointed but unfortunately that's how it is in this profession.
Good luck to all and hopefully see you next time on assessments and eventually in flightdeck!
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 14:30
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Another rejection here too unfortunately under similar circumstances - would almost love to know what more I can do! Maybe the lack of further education?

PPL self funded by working in aviation since leaving college 3 years back, as well as various other aviation related hobbies/activities and volunteering.

Annoying since I put a lot of time and effort in to the essay questions!

Would like to know the backgrounds of some who have progressed to see what else I could do to better myself next time
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 14:41
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If I recall correctly, the questions requested answers in list format not essays?

I have also been rejected for a different airline by using more or less the same answers that served me well the year before. I found if they ask the same questions like 'Why do you want to become a pilot' then the answer doesn't really change from one year to the next.
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 15:11
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Id be happy to share my answers with a few as I was successful in this stage.

PM me if you want to have a chat.
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 15:41
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Originally Posted by yankee_alpha
If I recall correctly, the questions requested answers in list format not essays?
3 of the questions requested answers in list format, the other 3 questions requested answers in essay format.
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 16:33
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It's re-assuring to see that other applicants with such drive and experience have also been let down this time.

The big dilemma is, start the ATPLs modular, or hold back another year for another chance at a similar scheme!

Cheers guys
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 01:40
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I was also rejected. I have PPL flying experience and felt i portrayed my passion for the industry pretty well. Certainly feel like I have 'earned' the right to get through to the next round but sometimes things happen for a reason.

Although I am sad about not getting through to the interview stage like others have said it only makes me more determined to make it work. I also believe a small element of luck comes into it on these applications. They read 5000 applications and have to get it down to 100-300, numerous guys/girls that are completely capable and passionate will still have to be rejected so I am not letting it put me off applying again. ATPL modular or perhaps whitetail has its advantages as well. Regardless of the route people take, if you want to be a pilot and you have the drive you can make it happen.
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 11:32
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Anyone doing their Stage 2 today/tommorow?
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 15:54
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Hi Guys/Girls,

Congrats to those who have been successful, and to those of you who weren't I hope you get a break soon.

Is anyone able to point me in the right direction of any online aptitude tests or prep sites/apps for the selection day?

Or

If anyone has got any information on the selection day itself then I would love to have a chat.
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 16:02
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Hello, I was successful and managed to book a slot on the 5th of January. Is anyone staying in a hotel on the 4th?
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Old 22nd Dec 2016, 18:46
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I have booked mine for 16th Jan... if anyone is going on the same one and staying the night before feel free to send me a PM!
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Old 23rd Dec 2016, 17:01
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Anyone still waiting to hear either way?
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Old 25th Dec 2016, 09:51
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Could anyone that got through to the 2nd stage last year shed some light on the type of questions that could be expected in the interview (2nd stage) please?
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 09:53
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@TheHighFlyah, they're of standard CTC style. Competency questions, with the odd one related to aviation, the flight deck environment and Virgin. Google is your friend in regards to this one.. you'll find hundreds of examples out there of these questions on the web. I found that my typical interview question asked for a generic answer and then they probed me to find if I could then relate this to being on the job at the airline.

Hope this helps
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 15:24
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@gbotley, thanks for the post buddy.. I've been finding your blog very useful too. Keep up the good work!
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 14:30
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Hi guys, so, there are 4 "phases" on this application. Am I correct to think that phase 2 consists of Math Test, Aptitude Test and Group exercise while phase 3 is the 1-to-1 interview? And will Phase 2 and 3 be on the same day? Thanks
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