CTC PILAPT: Flying Through Boxes

[hundred_above]

I think Sapperkenno has a point. The aptitude tests are there for a reason and failing the same one twice doesn't bode well for the OP. Personally, I find the flying through boxes to be the easiest one, I've gotten 10 10 10 on this before and have never gone below 9. I'm surprised that anyone can fail it to be honest. All it takes is some anticipation and a quick grasp of the joystick sensitivity. If the OP is struggling with this then I highly doubt he is a first class pilot as someone else suggested above.

Out of interest OP, have you done any actual flying as a PPL or taking lessons?

[Officer Kite]

Personally, I find the flying through boxes to be the easiest one

Really I couldn't agree more, it's odd to pass all the others and have difficulty with this.

[tech log]

Originally Posted by indi1988

Sapperkenno... you are exactly what is wrong with the industry today. You have epitomized the un-supportive cut throat pilots union in one sentence.

Some poor bloke has come onto a pilots forum to ask for help and you have actually taken the time out to spit on him? What did you get from this? Is your life actually so empty that you must berate him to pass the time? Why not order a pizza and have a beer instead.

For all you know, he could be a first class pilot with much better aviation skills than you, but is finding one particular aspect 'sticky' ....

I genuinely hope you are flagged by recruiters for your awful attitude and behaviour.

Total over-reaction.

He had a good point. Practising and scraping through selection is not a very good idea when you are embarking on the process of balancing £100,000 on passing CPL/IR first series, passing an airline sim check and then passing a TR/Base/Line.

It is sad but some people just don't have the co-ordination ability.

I can tell you for a fact I have known people who have been terminated from CTC simply because they had too much remedial training, simply because the core flying aptitude wasn't there but they had done enough to get through selection.

[TrevorPhillips]

Sorry if i'm asking out of topic question, but i wanted to apply for QR scheme at CTC and i want to buy a preparation software from Skytest, which one do you prefer ? UK pilot aptitude screenings or Middle East pilot screenings ?

thanks

[HEJT2015]

Definitely the UK one, works a treat! Best of luck

[dobbiej]

Went to CTC Monday to to the Flybe assessment. Everyone found the boxes one the worst with incredibly low averages. I can fly heli and fixed wing (er real not sim), quite happily landing the former on sloping ground and the latter in decent crosswinds, yet I still found boxes very tough. However, I passed and am on the shortlist which is an amazing feeling

[hundred_above]

I did it last month. Same as it always was for me.

[Alvor]

Where’d you find the cases out @frequent flyer? Had a 4 5 5 myself very recently and haven’t heard back yet. I feel the rest of the test went well. So could be binging on Trax.

[Piltdown Man]

Flying for a living is nothing to do with flying. I haven’t a clue about the CTC selection process but I also would strongly consider my suitability for flying if I failed an extrance selection twice. Even though flying the real thing might be easier than flying through boxes, the main point has been missed. When you are fying for a living have to be able to fly almost without thinking. You must be able to put the aircraft exactly exactly where you want it. By doing so, it will give you the spare capacity to think. Are you where you should be? How long will it be before you get you your next waypint, turn etc. How long can you hold for? If Plan A goes to worms, his much fuel will be required for Plan B or C? How can I sell that to my colleagues? The aircraft might be able to do some of that work for you, but do you trust it? You have to have some rough figures in your head to check the correct guff has been beaten into the magic box. When you are doing this is bumpy clouds at night you don’t want the overhead of the effort put into your flying to be too onerous.

Lastly, there is nothing worse than flying with those who think they are the “Ace of the Base” or gifted flyers. You want to be flying with Mr or Miss Average. They are easier to work with.

So as Wiggy said, you will be investing a considerable amount of money and time if you wish to (try and) obtain a commercial licence. Make sure it’s not wasted investment.

[TryingToAvoidCBs]

Try Modular.

(Just noticed this post is >12 months old...but it's worth mentioning the following)

Your original post clearly states you are attempting to apply for the EJ MPL. Understandably, CTC & EasyJet will want the cream of the crop for such a course. This will be due to the short and intense period of the course and the minimal hours you have once you get into the RHS of a shiny A320.
It makes sense that if you are struggling with the basics during the assessment, then having to do (according to the EJ website):

• Theoretical knowledge training

• Aircraft flight training – Single-engine piston aircraft, NZ and UK

• Multi-pilot flight training – A320 Jet simulator UK

• Aircraft type-specific training– A320 Jet simulator, UK

• Aircraft type-specific training– A320 simulator and A320 aircraft, UK– with L3 and easyJet

• easyJet training – line flying, UK and Europe with easyJet

...all in 80 weeks (18 months) is going to push you well beyond your limits. It's also going to set you back £109,000

Consider the modular route. You can start with a PPL, and as others have suggested, get a feel for a real aircraft and build those skills which are required to take your career to the next level. It's far more enjoyable, less stressful, IMHO much better training too as you can go at a pace which is comfortable for you, and it'll also save you a small fortune.

Yes, it will take longer....possibly a LOT longer. But you'll still walk out of a respectable flying school with the same peice of paper, and also open yourself to MANY other airlines who will resepct your hard work and dedication (hopefully).

There are many ways to skin a cat. If you can't skin the first one, don't give up. Try a different cat from a different angle. Only once you've run out of cats should you then move on.

We're not all Chuck Yeager, but you don't have to be. You just have to want to be. We weren't born to fly, you have to work at it.

Best of luck.

[Banana Joe]

Modular training doesn't necessarily mean longer time. I did mine in 16 months.

[99heyho]

what about the ones in pilotaptitudetest.com?? i am going for jetstar under ctc/l3

[Officer Kite]

Originally Posted by Piltdown Man

. I haven’t a clue about the CTC selection process but I also would strongly consider my suitability for flying if I failed an entrance selection twice.

Perhaps the worst advice I have ever come across on this site, a gross misjudgment of the reality of these selection processes