Not a bad time to start training?
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and I can not find good work even on MEP
Trust me, it is not worth to do any commercial training now or in the near future
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define "good work"? Have you gotten any offers that you had to turn down because the pay wouldn't cover your monthly re-payments?
yet airlines are growing, buying new aircraft, announcing recruitment drives and so on.. if now's not a good time to be graduating, there will never be.
yet airlines are growing, buying new aircraft, announcing recruitment drives and so on.. if now's not a good time to be graduating, there will never be.
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I can not understand how it is possible, that intelligent and mature people can belive in this bogus pilots shortage. I was just stupid, so I can share my experience. If you love flying, good - spend this cash on university degree in law or become a good engineer and buy a nice microlight for the rest to fly on weekends
There is no pilots shortage, and I will say for everyone who wish to loose 70k - stay away from this bull****. This scam is run by CTC, FTE and others, only to drain your pockets !!
I currently have nearly 2000 hrs, FI, IRI, JOC, MCC and 100k debt and I can not find good work even on MEP ( not only me, many of my mates can`t too ) so with 250 hrs you can only decorate the wall with your licence.
Trust me, it is not worth to do any commercial training now or in the near future
There is no pilots shortage, and I will say for everyone who wish to loose 70k - stay away from this bull****. This scam is run by CTC, FTE and others, only to drain your pockets !!
I currently have nearly 2000 hrs, FI, IRI, JOC, MCC and 100k debt and I can not find good work even on MEP ( not only me, many of my mates can`t too ) so with 250 hrs you can only decorate the wall with your licence.
Trust me, it is not worth to do any commercial training now or in the near future
Your predicament may be due to your cv and personality in addition to applying in the wrong places.
I'm about to enrol on an mpl course, and the airline is expanding significantly. I have no doubt I will be in employment with them in 2 years time. Your opinion would be more credible if you were unbiased but the fact is you aren't. You're in a bad situation and your views are reflective of this, not at the hiring situation overall.
Don't believe BA do an MPL, think it's a "full" integrated (f)ATPL.
Could possibly be easyjet, virgin or qatar, they're some MPL schemes currently running at the main FTOs.
Could possibly be easyjet, virgin or qatar, they're some MPL schemes currently running at the main FTOs.
And the MPL courses are all "airline-sponsored" depending on how you look at it.
The airline doesn't pay for it, the student has to, but there is a job at the end of it (if you meet all requirements throughout training), and the training is all in association with an airline.
So after the single engine flying is done with (i.e. PPL and hour building equivalent stages), its mostly multi-crew airline-SOP training in fixed-base and full-flight simulators for a few months, before the standard type rating.
12 circuits for base training rather than the normal 6 though (due to lack of real flying time in twin-engine aircraft I believe).
There will be variations and differences in each MPL course, depending on airline requirements and what they've got approved by the CAA/EASA, but generally it's slightly cheaper and a few months quicker than the integrated CPL/IR + self-sponsored type rating route. Plus you have a guaranteed* job at the end.
* nothing is ever guaranteed, but if you meet the training requirements and pass all the sims and LSTs then final part of the MPL is line training with the airline on an employed basis
The airline doesn't pay for it, the student has to, but there is a job at the end of it (if you meet all requirements throughout training), and the training is all in association with an airline.
So after the single engine flying is done with (i.e. PPL and hour building equivalent stages), its mostly multi-crew airline-SOP training in fixed-base and full-flight simulators for a few months, before the standard type rating.
12 circuits for base training rather than the normal 6 though (due to lack of real flying time in twin-engine aircraft I believe).
There will be variations and differences in each MPL course, depending on airline requirements and what they've got approved by the CAA/EASA, but generally it's slightly cheaper and a few months quicker than the integrated CPL/IR + self-sponsored type rating route. Plus you have a guaranteed* job at the end.
* nothing is ever guaranteed, but if you meet the training requirements and pass all the sims and LSTs then final part of the MPL is line training with the airline on an employed basis
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I currently have nearly 2000 hrs, FI, IRI, JOC, MCC and 100k debt and I can not find good work even on MEP ( not only me, many of my mates can`t too ) so with 250 hrs you can only decorate the wall with your licence.
I'm about to enrol on an mpl course, and the airline is expanding significantly. I have no doubt I will be in employment with them in 2 years time.
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I did. I actually started training on the 4th of January 2016, 1 day before your post. I finished my training somewhere in September 2017. Within two months, I had two job offers and am currently doing a TR.
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Started Spring 2016 on an MPL course. Training completed end of 2017, type rating January 2018.
Most of my course mates scooped up into an airline post training. Slight slowdown in the last few months imho.
Most of my course mates scooped up into an airline post training. Slight slowdown in the last few months imho.
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Do you guys think that this good period will end soon? I started my training on March 02 2017 so today is exactly 1 year but I had to stop the PPL for some personal problems and I lost 5 months but I'm completing it now. I think I will finish all the training in late 2019. I hope this period will continue until that time!!!
The only certainty is that without a licence you won’t get a job.
If you can afford to play the long game, it’s a bit like surfing. Buy a board, float around waiting, then ride the wave.
CaptainDuckHead - have you considered dropping a zero from your CV? It might put you into the right demographic. It worked for me.
If you can afford to play the long game, it’s a bit like surfing. Buy a board, float around waiting, then ride the wave.
CaptainDuckHead - have you considered dropping a zero from your CV? It might put you into the right demographic. It worked for me.
