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I think when ctc start their last course around march, oaa start their guys then until summer.
I'm disappointed to hear you don't get told what route you've been given for a month. More so because i initially thought that after phase 2, if you were told you had passed that then by "successful", the assumption on my part was certainly successful for route 1. And that if you weren't then you would be told you were successful for route 2 or 3, allowing you to decide if you are happy to continue to interview even if your phase 2 results don't allow you to do route 1.
So now I could have gotten aptitude grades that only allow route 2 or 3 but trying to interview for a route 1.Not a good mindset to be in !
Thank you all for the info
I'm disappointed to hear you don't get told what route you've been given for a month. More so because i initially thought that after phase 2, if you were told you had passed that then by "successful", the assumption on my part was certainly successful for route 1. And that if you weren't then you would be told you were successful for route 2 or 3, allowing you to decide if you are happy to continue to interview even if your phase 2 results don't allow you to do route 1.
So now I could have gotten aptitude grades that only allow route 2 or 3 but trying to interview for a route 1.Not a good mindset to be in !
Thank you all for the info
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The route 1 option with TR and everything included (mpl), is £100,500.
If you go "route 3" (i use quotations cos i think this is a bit of a con, it's the self sponsored oaa fatpl course, why "route 3"? :/ gives false ideas to those who are new to the game) you must graduate alone, then if lucky spend £38,000 for that same 320 TR.
So £87,500 + £38,000 and that's if you're lucky. EasyJet are notoriously fussy about what graduates they take.
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Is there anybody still waiting for his or her stage 3 results from CTC? Because all the guys from my assessment with whom I´m still in contact have their results, but I´m still waiting, absolutely patiently of course 
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Anyone on here going to stage 2 at OAA?
Ive read the forum and, what OAA have sent out. Could anyone narrow down on what part of physics you need to brush up on prior to the assessment, quite a lot to study, but manageable if you can direct your time accordingly.
Thanks.
Ive read the forum and, what OAA have sent out. Could anyone narrow down on what part of physics you need to brush up on prior to the assessment, quite a lot to study, but manageable if you can direct your time accordingly.
Thanks.
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The impression I got was that, since easyJet have effectively preselected you, they check in with you at various stages along the way, each time they do that you have the opportunity to be "picked up" by the company and given a job offer. There won't be any interviews, it's more like grabbing a coffee with the chief pilot because if you're offered route 3, you've met easyJet standard already
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All this is what I'm going to be trying hard to extract information from CTC about over the next week before I make my decision.
It's undoubtedly a riskier route, but I'm not sure I quite agree with Officer Kite that it's essentially whitetail with a brand name stuck on it. Going through the selection having had easyJet involved does as EZY_FR said seem to count for something.
In the CTC info guide booklet, it suggests that after ground school there is the opportunity for an 'easyJet placement offer' at that point. That in my mind is the main 'extra' over the 'standard fatpl route'. What I really want to get to the bottom of is the proportion of route 3 cadets who get that placement at that point and what actually leads to it. Is it good ground school performance and a chat? Or is it total full on interviews and re-selection?
It's undoubtedly a riskier route, but I'm not sure I quite agree with Officer Kite that it's essentially whitetail with a brand name stuck on it. Going through the selection having had easyJet involved does as EZY_FR said seem to count for something.
In the CTC info guide booklet, it suggests that after ground school there is the opportunity for an 'easyJet placement offer' at that point. That in my mind is the main 'extra' over the 'standard fatpl route'. What I really want to get to the bottom of is the proportion of route 3 cadets who get that placement at that point and what actually leads to it. Is it good ground school performance and a chat? Or is it total full on interviews and re-selection?
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Not sure when these "routes" started appearing as it was just MPL or ATPL white tail prevously. It's certainly risky paying out money or starting a course without being clear as to the route you're taking.
The flying schedule is quite different between the two so the end of ground school is the last point at which you could switch.
Strong suspicion it is a tactic by CTC to enrol more people on a whitetail ATPL course, with a very loose promise (that won't be in writing) that you could transfer to an MPL only if there are a few extra spaces at the exact time you finish ground school. Avoid.
The flying schedule is quite different between the two so the end of ground school is the last point at which you could switch.
Strong suspicion it is a tactic by CTC to enrol more people on a whitetail ATPL course, with a very loose promise (that won't be in writing) that you could transfer to an MPL only if there are a few extra spaces at the exact time you finish ground school. Avoid.
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EZY_FR congratulations! Didn't I tell you that we'll meet again
. Fingers crossed, I hope the ohers made it too. What I heard from EZY HR is that MPL route is a joint decision between oxford and easyjet and one of the primary criteria is your academic qualifications. I'm gonna a try to speak to Lydia (ezy lady gave the presentation) next week and try to get a better understanding.
. Fingers crossed, I hope the ohers made it too. What I heard from EZY HR is that MPL route is a joint decision between oxford and easyjet and one of the primary criteria is your academic qualifications. I'm gonna a try to speak to Lydia (ezy lady gave the presentation) next week and try to get a better understanding.
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It's certainly risky paying out money or starting a course without being clear as to the route you're taking.
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I'd be very surprised if academic qualifications are a defining factor in who gets what routes since I have a masters degree and have been offered route 3. It's more likely to be how you have been ranked against others in the selection process.
doz111...what you're describing is route 2 which is different to what myself, Officer Kite and EZY_FR are referring to.
With route 2 as you say there is this option to switch from ATPL to MPL after ground school.
With route 3 you know from the outset you are not getting the MPL, you are definitely doing the ATPL. It supposedly differs from ATPL whitetail in that you still have the 'opportunity' to receive a confirmed offer from easyjet at the end of ground school, which white tail candidates would not have. It's the likelihood of that opportunity that is crucial to understanding how good or bad route 3 is, and is what I'm going to be giving CTC a grilling about on Monday lol.
doz111...what you're describing is route 2 which is different to what myself, Officer Kite and EZY_FR are referring to.
With route 2 as you say there is this option to switch from ATPL to MPL after ground school.
With route 3 you know from the outset you are not getting the MPL, you are definitely doing the ATPL. It supposedly differs from ATPL whitetail in that you still have the 'opportunity' to receive a confirmed offer from easyjet at the end of ground school, which white tail candidates would not have. It's the likelihood of that opportunity that is crucial to understanding how good or bad route 3 is, and is what I'm going to be giving CTC a grilling about on Monday lol.
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It would be interesting to see what ctc have to say re route 3. However in my opinion all three are a risk. Your a putting up your own money without a signed contract. So if easyJet's hiring postition is different in 2 years time you will be left in the same situation as some ME cadets a few years ago sitting in a hold pool with an mpl type rating and no contract. Don't get me wrong they are all great opportunities and I wouldn't turn my nose up at any route. But to say route 1 & to an extent, route 2 are risk free garunteed jobs is incorrect I feel.
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Yes hopefully you can get some clarity on what exactly "opportunity" means.
Best of luck to all of you anyway. I'm ex MPL, now at EZY so if you've got questions on the course etc pm me and I'll try to help.
Best of luck to all of you anyway. I'm ex MPL, now at EZY so if you've got questions on the course etc pm me and I'll try to help.
Be careful with regards route 3, I would advise you to consider it very carefully because as nice as 'easyJet route 3' might sound you are essentially just a normal whitetail cadet.
Think about it from easyJet's point of view, why would they not offer everyone route 3 who made it to them (already had a spot with OAA). It has no commitment whatsoever so they could literally offer it to 5000 people this year and it makes no odds to them, you still have to get selected at the end.
Give it to a rubbish candidate: just don't give me a spot when they graduate, or if they turn out to be better than thought give them a spot.
Give it to a better candidate: onus is still entirely on them to do well, if they do give them a space and if they don't then they can be politely removed from the mailing list in seconds.
I get the impression route 3 is just a clever agreement between OAA and easyJet to get people signed up to the whitetail course. The offer from easyJet, if you're any good, you'd get anyway so I really am failing to see what if any benefit you have over a whitetail cadet by doing route 3. By the same sense going normal whitetail is no worse off as you are in exactly the same situation i.e. hoping for a spot at easyJet.
Think about it from easyJet's point of view, why would they not offer everyone route 3 who made it to them (already had a spot with OAA). It has no commitment whatsoever so they could literally offer it to 5000 people this year and it makes no odds to them, you still have to get selected at the end.
Give it to a rubbish candidate: just don't give me a spot when they graduate, or if they turn out to be better than thought give them a spot.
Give it to a better candidate: onus is still entirely on them to do well, if they do give them a space and if they don't then they can be politely removed from the mailing list in seconds.
I get the impression route 3 is just a clever agreement between OAA and easyJet to get people signed up to the whitetail course. The offer from easyJet, if you're any good, you'd get anyway so I really am failing to see what if any benefit you have over a whitetail cadet by doing route 3. By the same sense going normal whitetail is no worse off as you are in exactly the same situation i.e. hoping for a spot at easyJet.
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Hi guys!
Anyone else is waiting for a date for phase 3 at Ctc?
I have been waiting for it for a month and a half now and I find always the same status "No spaces are currently available, please try again later."
Anyone else is waiting for a date for phase 3 at Ctc?
I have been waiting for it for a month and a half now and I find always the same status "No spaces are currently available, please try again later."
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Hi guys ... I have been offered Route 3 too by CTC and I'm waiting for their call to gather some more details. From the generation easyJet route guide it seem that EZY can pick you up at the end of theory but when I've asked at my interview they said they are going to offer you a place right after your CPL. Really confusing and conflicting information about this program.
I have to take a decision since I also have been offered a place at FTE in January... which is a great school too. A lot depends on when CTC offers me to start the course. I'm considering the fact that FTE is 2 months quicker ... and I'd like to start as soon as possible in order to try to stay in this positive period for pilot recruitment.
Really hard choice ...
I have to take a decision since I also have been offered a place at FTE in January... which is a great school too. A lot depends on when CTC offers me to start the course. I'm considering the fact that FTE is 2 months quicker ... and I'd like to start as soon as possible in order to try to stay in this positive period for pilot recruitment.
Really hard choice ...
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Hi everyone! Unfortunately I've also gotten the offer for the Integrated ATPL with EasyJet, the route 3, and now I'm in the horrible position to take a decision about it, whether accepting it or turning it down.
Today I rang the number I had in the email I got on Friday, but it's a CTC advisor, who knows probably less than me about the program. All the questions I have regarding the huge amount of information missing about this program, are still unasked. Does any of you have any better information or source of information? An Easyjet email or number to contact to ask more detailed and accurate information regarding the program? It's not a decision can be taken without proper guarantees, information and data. At least not for people with limited economic possibilities.
Today I rang the number I had in the email I got on Friday, but it's a CTC advisor, who knows probably less than me about the program. All the questions I have regarding the huge amount of information missing about this program, are still unasked. Does any of you have any better information or source of information? An Easyjet email or number to contact to ask more detailed and accurate information regarding the program? It's not a decision can be taken without proper guarantees, information and data. At least not for people with limited economic possibilities.
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I am in the same position and really beginning to worry that all the places will be gone. I'd be extremely annoyed having paid a lot of money for selection for them to not even offer an interview!
Really beginning to wish I'd applied through OAA as they at least seem able to organise interviews!
Really beginning to wish I'd applied through OAA as they at least seem able to organise interviews!
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Congratulations to all those with offers!
Anything other than the MPL route sounds like a serious risk, especially for those who aren't self funding their training. Any figures relating to the number of route 2 & 3 cadets who score a placement upon completion would be really interesting to see. In fact, I'd argue that those figures are crucial for anyone considering taking a loan for either of the lesser routes.
Anything other than the MPL route sounds like a serious risk, especially for those who aren't self funding their training. Any figures relating to the number of route 2 & 3 cadets who score a placement upon completion would be really interesting to see. In fact, I'd argue that those figures are crucial for anyone considering taking a loan for either of the lesser routes.
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I agree route 3 is risky and I myself am likely to decline it, but people keep on saying it has no benefit over whitetail, which is false. How much value you attribute to that benefit is personal opinion...