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Costs, Age & Salary
The CTC site mentions the Skills Funding Agency as an option for funding the 106k security bond. Does anyone know much about this? Would they fund the full amount? Sounds just like a student loan to me, from the SFA website, but can't find a maximum cap anywhere? Would be great if they do, as would remove need to secure on the house.
Also, does anyone know if age would be an issue. Only 35, but likely to be slightly older than some other candidates. Still a 30 year career ahead of me! But do you think that would be an issue?
And assume there would be no salary paid during the 18 month training period?
Thanks!
Also, does anyone know if age would be an issue. Only 35, but likely to be slightly older than some other candidates. Still a 30 year career ahead of me! But do you think that would be an issue?
And assume there would be no salary paid during the 18 month training period?
Thanks!
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just got my thanks but no thanks email too. My experience is ppl, 94hrs TT, no atpl exams passed. Degree. Age 26. Sucks! IM focusing on the COMMAND program now. Fed up with these cadet schemes for the moment.
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I cant see that some poor sod at CTC has to sit and read 600 words from each application. My guess is that all applications are screened by a computer program that looks for key words and phrases. Then if you pass the criteria in all the other sections (education, age, fly experience etc) and have the right key phrases it puts your application through. Then only ones that meet the right criteria are then read.
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Virgin Atlantic Future Pilot Program
Hi all
Thought I would start a thread for the program so we can all chat with each other, I have put my application in today and hoping for a positive answer. Does anyone know what the time frame was for them to get back to you?
Also, so far reading the other thread it seems that there have been many "thanks but no thanks" from them, wondering if anyone had managed to get through to the next part yet.
Best of luck to everyone else who applies.
Thought I would start a thread for the program so we can all chat with each other, I have put my application in today and hoping for a positive answer. Does anyone know what the time frame was for them to get back to you?
Also, so far reading the other thread it seems that there have been many "thanks but no thanks" from them, wondering if anyone had managed to get through to the next part yet.
Best of luck to everyone else who applies.
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Just received my positive e-mail for the next stage of the application process, just wondering what dates other people have been given for the assessment day at CTC?
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Has anyone heard anything back from their application? I haven't yet. If anyone does it would be great if you could let us know!
I am checking mine daily for any progress but my phase one status is "awaiting selection". Hopefully I will hear something soon either way it would be nice to know the outcome.
I do however remember when I applied for the icp route 4 years ago that I had to call them to find out what was going on. When I did they said there had been an error with the system and it was purely due to the fact that I had put a start date so far away in the future.
Fingers crossed for everyone applying
I am checking mine daily for any progress but my phase one status is "awaiting selection". Hopefully I will hear something soon either way it would be nice to know the outcome.
I do however remember when I applied for the icp route 4 years ago that I had to call them to find out what was going on. When I did they said there had been an error with the system and it was purely due to the fact that I had put a start date so far away in the future.
Fingers crossed for everyone applying
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Just seen on the FB Q&A that they will be taking 200+ through to the next stage from "many thousands". Fans of maths; that's a maximum of 20%
And apparently all the applications are read by a human.
And apparently all the applications are read by a human.
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FB Session
On the facebook session they also seemed to confirm that you would be on £27k plus what I assume would only be inflation level yearly increases for the seven years, and only go on to normal pay scales once the seven years was up. Is that standard?
Does anyone know what the starting salary is for the BA round and whether you would get pay increases in line with increased experience?
This is the thread:
"George Lamb I've heard the starting salary for successful trainees will be around £27,000. I understand this is significantly lower than the £65,000 direct F/O salary. Why is this and will FFP pilots be on a separate pay scale to direct entry pilots?
CTC Aviation George. Our Direct Entry Pilots have a minimum of 3000 hours (on average over 4000) this means that they have been flying for 5 years or more, some have been Captains or even Training Captains. The salary has been aligned with experience and also the successful applicants get their training paid. Hope this helps explain. Many thanks
George Lamb Thanks for the response, but would FFP pilots ultimately earn the same as those of with equivalent hours as a direct entry pilot? so 3000/4000 hours would lead to a similar £65,000 wage. For further understanding, say a successful FFP flew 3000 hours for Virgin over x amount of time. If a DEP joined with 3000 hours at the same time the FEP reached 3000 hours, would they be on equivalent wages/pay scale? Thanks.
CTC Aviation Hi George. Once the 7 years are complete and the bond repaid the pilot will move over to the normal pay scales
George Lamb Thanks for the reply CTC Aviation. Sorry to be a bother but I just wanted to iron things out. Would the FFP receive any salary increase in those 7 years?
CTC Aviation Hi George. Yes there are incremental pay rises every year"
Does anyone know what the starting salary is for the BA round and whether you would get pay increases in line with increased experience?
This is the thread:
"George Lamb I've heard the starting salary for successful trainees will be around £27,000. I understand this is significantly lower than the £65,000 direct F/O salary. Why is this and will FFP pilots be on a separate pay scale to direct entry pilots?
CTC Aviation George. Our Direct Entry Pilots have a minimum of 3000 hours (on average over 4000) this means that they have been flying for 5 years or more, some have been Captains or even Training Captains. The salary has been aligned with experience and also the successful applicants get their training paid. Hope this helps explain. Many thanks
George Lamb Thanks for the response, but would FFP pilots ultimately earn the same as those of with equivalent hours as a direct entry pilot? so 3000/4000 hours would lead to a similar £65,000 wage. For further understanding, say a successful FFP flew 3000 hours for Virgin over x amount of time. If a DEP joined with 3000 hours at the same time the FEP reached 3000 hours, would they be on equivalent wages/pay scale? Thanks.
CTC Aviation Hi George. Once the 7 years are complete and the bond repaid the pilot will move over to the normal pay scales
George Lamb Thanks for the reply CTC Aviation. Sorry to be a bother but I just wanted to iron things out. Would the FFP receive any salary increase in those 7 years?
CTC Aviation Hi George. Yes there are incremental pay rises every year"
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CTC Assessment
Hey DS4,
What date have you been given for your ctc assessment? I have yet to receive a reply regarding my application but was just curious as to roughly when the assessments are taking place.
Thanks
What date have you been given for your ctc assessment? I have yet to receive a reply regarding my application but was just curious as to roughly when the assessments are taking place.
Thanks
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Not this time
Just received my thanks but no thanks e-mail, nevermind. Just to update you all recent figures from CTC today, Virgin stated that:
a. So far there are around 6000 applicants
b. 300..ish would be passed through to the next stage (assesment centre)
c. 100..ish would be selected for the final assesment day with Virgin
d. 12 jobs available at the end, leaves a 0.2% chance of success!
Apologies, if everybody is already aware of the current statistics.
a. So far there are around 6000 applicants
b. 300..ish would be passed through to the next stage (assesment centre)
c. 100..ish would be selected for the final assesment day with Virgin
d. 12 jobs available at the end, leaves a 0.2% chance of success!
Apologies, if everybody is already aware of the current statistics.
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I just got the sorry but not thanks email too!!! It's a shame, but never mind onwards and upwards as they say.
Looks like the odds are getting slightly better for those still in the game
The statistics show just how fierce the competition is and as always I wish everyone with applications still active the best of luck
Danny.
Looks like the odds are getting slightly better for those still in the game
The statistics show just how fierce the competition is and as always I wish everyone with applications still active the best of luck
Danny.
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Hi all
What time frame did it take them to get back to you with a yes or no answer, I put my application in last Wednesday AM and still haven't heard anything back from them. On the ctc portal it still says that it is "awaiting selection"
Would anyone recommend giving them a call or just leave it until they get in touch with me
Thanks
What time frame did it take them to get back to you with a yes or no answer, I put my application in last Wednesday AM and still haven't heard anything back from them. On the ctc portal it still says that it is "awaiting selection"
Would anyone recommend giving them a call or just leave it until they get in touch with me
Thanks
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It seems that this scheme is far more competitive than the BA FPP. Two years ago there were around 4000 applicants for 75 spaces. Roughly a 2% chance compared with Virgin's 0.2%.
I have to say I'm fairly surprised as BA say that they will guarantee the loan for anyone who requires it but this seems a grey area with Virgin.
I have to say I'm fairly surprised as BA say that they will guarantee the loan for anyone who requires it but this seems a grey area with Virgin.