Pilot Apprentice - Jet 2
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If Pilot's were so sought after then why do companies not sponsor individuals through a proper apprenticeship? Does anyone never think if this?
Look at the apprenticeships offered by Airbus: Salary from day 1, all training and qualifications paid for by them (that's relative training, not training in another field), and finally a job.
Similarly NATS ATCO: salary from day 1, all training paid for, a job at the end on 50k+.
Then look at pilots: no salary, no training paid for, no job.
Credit to Jet2 for at least coming up with something that pays a salary, even if you've had to spend a bloody fortune in the first place to get it.
Look at the apprenticeships offered by Airbus: Salary from day 1, all training and qualifications paid for by them (that's relative training, not training in another field), and finally a job.
Similarly NATS ATCO: salary from day 1, all training paid for, a job at the end on 50k+.
Then look at pilots: no salary, no training paid for, no job.
Credit to Jet2 for at least coming up with something that pays a salary, even if you've had to spend a bloody fortune in the first place to get it.
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And therein lies the point. Too many FATPL holders now consider it "normal" to go from a Seneca to a 737/320.
A job on an ATR now seems the bottom of the pile.
It shouldn't be, it should be celebrated as a bloody good result in these testing times.
And putting aside the semantics of whether this is an apprenticeship, or not, it still seems to me to be a good way of getting a fully funded type rating on a jet2 aircraft type in 18 months from commencement of employment.
It will give the "apprentice" access to skills that other pilots never learn and it will give them access to HQ senior people. That could prove invaluable in years to come..... I for one still think this sounds like an opportunity and not a trap.
A job on an ATR now seems the bottom of the pile.
It shouldn't be, it should be celebrated as a bloody good result in these testing times.
And putting aside the semantics of whether this is an apprenticeship, or not, it still seems to me to be a good way of getting a fully funded type rating on a jet2 aircraft type in 18 months from commencement of employment.
It will give the "apprentice" access to skills that other pilots never learn and it will give them access to HQ senior people. That could prove invaluable in years to come..... I for one still think this sounds like an opportunity and not a trap.
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TheBigD,again,making assumptions....let me break it down for you!
When I said "I'm willing to start from the bottom." I didn't refer to the ATR gig.I am Extremely happy with it,How lucky I was to land this gig and I DO understand that it isn't bottom.I can't wait to start and am Already in love with the plane,it will be a very positive experience and perhaps one day I will be ready for the big jets,I feel this is just right,as of right now.It could be a BE1900 or Seneca job,still would be grateful.
What I meant was that I have search for FI positions,towing,dropping parachute,etc,and bush flying(preferably)I was in Africa for 2 weeks and search for bush flying,spoke to a lot of people,made contacts, etc,and that's how the ATR thing showed up,Luck I guess,but I had to get out of my backside.I am no CTC/OAA kid waiting on their respective schools career's department to give them a call and say,"hey,Easy and Ryanair said yes".... so explain to me where my sense of entitlement is??
When I said "I'm willing to start from the bottom." I didn't refer to the ATR gig.I am Extremely happy with it,How lucky I was to land this gig and I DO understand that it isn't bottom.I can't wait to start and am Already in love with the plane,it will be a very positive experience and perhaps one day I will be ready for the big jets,I feel this is just right,as of right now.It could be a BE1900 or Seneca job,still would be grateful.
What I meant was that I have search for FI positions,towing,dropping parachute,etc,and bush flying(preferably)I was in Africa for 2 weeks and search for bush flying,spoke to a lot of people,made contacts, etc,and that's how the ATR thing showed up,Luck I guess,but I had to get out of my backside.I am no CTC/OAA kid waiting on their respective schools career's department to give them a call and say,"hey,Easy and Ryanair said yes".... so explain to me where my sense of entitlement is??
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I'm just repeating what you said in your post.
I am willing to start from the bottom,and that's what I am about to do!
You were referring to your ATR job, were you not? The new job you are starting. The italicized is the sentence on which I based my comment on.
In any case, best of luck and congrats.
I'm just repeating what you said in your post.
I am willing to start from the bottom,and that's what I am about to do!
You were referring to your ATR job, were you not? The new job you are starting. The italicized is the sentence on which I based my comment on.
In any case, best of luck and congrats.
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INSURANCE NATIONAL NUMBER
As all of your already knows,
in the application process it's necessary to insert this information;
but not being uk citizen; how could i comply with this issue?
In the hope all of us be successfull with it;
Best regards
in the application process it's necessary to insert this information;
but not being uk citizen; how could i comply with this issue?
In the hope all of us be successfull with it;
Best regards
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Perhaps I didn't express myself properly,but I meant taking my butt out of the sofa,make contacts,travel,visit flight training and job fairs,hand out CV's,leaving my comfort zone,my country,my language,my food,my missus in order to get some experience in a country where AK-47s are cheaper than bread.
If you feel that I have been spoilt in any manner that's your opinion,but I repudiate been put in the same pot as some guys I have seen who went to the easier route of Air Baltic,Lion Air,Citilink P2F etc..or simply were "awarded" the jobs in a platter through their schools.
I feel that I have done everything possible to get in the jobs ladder without having to put a knife on my fellow airman's backs!either way thank you
If you feel that I have been spoilt in any manner that's your opinion,but I repudiate been put in the same pot as some guys I have seen who went to the easier route of Air Baltic,Lion Air,Citilink P2F etc..or simply were "awarded" the jobs in a platter through their schools.
I feel that I have done everything possible to get in the jobs ladder without having to put a knife on my fellow airman's backs!either way thank you
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Pilot Apprenticeship
Hi ladies and Gents
Will the airlines be wanting a frozen ATPL or just a CPL? On the Jet 2 website it doesn't say anything about needing these. Also which other Airlines do you believe will take this opportunity? Ive been the Aircadets 5 years nearly and am hooked on flying, I'm now 18
Will the airlines be wanting a frozen ATPL or just a CPL? On the Jet 2 website it doesn't say anything about needing these. Also which other Airlines do you believe will take this opportunity? Ive been the Aircadets 5 years nearly and am hooked on flying, I'm now 18
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I think you've begun to overstep the mark.
Your original posts started off in a well thought out manner and they've denigrated into plain rude.
You've made your point, we've said our piece.
Move on....
Your original posts started off in a well thought out manner and they've denigrated into plain rude.
You've made your point, we've said our piece.
Move on....
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Jet2 Online Assessment
Hi, I too was invited to take the online assessment which included some online multi choice tests. I got as far as the final test (VRT2 Main) which is supposed to contain 24 questions to be comleted in 18 minutes. On opening the test I get a white screen with the word 'Question' at the top and the words 'my answer' over to the right with no other details ie no question text or multi choice answers from which to choose. I tried the test on 2 different laptops (not macs) with the same result each time, anyone else get this problem?
I have emailed the person at Jet2 that sent me the online test link and also the people that produce the test to highlight the problem.
Obviously the fact that I cannot see the questions or possible answers makes it difficult for me to complete the test ever (much less within 18 minutes).
Hopefully it's a minor bug and it will get sorted out.
I have emailed the person at Jet2 that sent me the online test link and also the people that produce the test to highlight the problem.
Obviously the fact that I cannot see the questions or possible answers makes it difficult for me to complete the test ever (much less within 18 minutes).
Hopefully it's a minor bug and it will get sorted out.