Pilots shortage
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Pilots shortage
Hi guys,
Well, It seems that all the analisys conclusión is the same. Do not Pay for the line trainings, they do not have enough people for flying the aircrafts order a in the next years.
China is happening, Thailand, India and is starting in USA. I see a los of jobs in USA for GA jobs, in Canadá there is a los of jobs offer. Let's get a FAA licence if you have more that 1500 hrs. Keep your licence and HT up to date, the situación is gonna change very soon. You will see.
http://www.kwqc.com/story/20653145/n...affects-flyers
Jet set ready for take-off | Bangkok Post: business
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/loca...ts-soon/nTwq5/
http://www.examiner.com/article/amer...shortage-looms
http://www.examiner.com/article/amer...shortage-looms
Well, It seems that all the analisys conclusión is the same. Do not Pay for the line trainings, they do not have enough people for flying the aircrafts order a in the next years.
China is happening, Thailand, India and is starting in USA. I see a los of jobs in USA for GA jobs, in Canadá there is a los of jobs offer. Let's get a FAA licence if you have more that 1500 hrs. Keep your licence and HT up to date, the situación is gonna change very soon. You will see.
http://www.kwqc.com/story/20653145/n...affects-flyers
Jet set ready for take-off | Bangkok Post: business
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/loca...ts-soon/nTwq5/
http://www.examiner.com/article/amer...shortage-looms
http://www.examiner.com/article/amer...shortage-looms
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China and India rely on growth through selling to the (more) devoloped areas such as Europe and USA, they're in a mess that will take 10-20 years to stabilise. Pilot shortage anytime soon? Don't think so.
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I think China's growth is over optimistic
BBC News - China's ghost towns and phantom malls
And like SAMCA said, China is paying for training of Chinese FOs. If you are a foreigner without the required experience on type, it is a closed shop.
BBC News - China's ghost towns and phantom malls
And like SAMCA said, China is paying for training of Chinese FOs. If you are a foreigner without the required experience on type, it is a closed shop.
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Many things have been written about this issue "pilots shortage."
For instance, China has shortage of experienced Captains on TR such as A320.
Anyway, from your bottom of your heart, your post (Samca) shows a positive attitude. However, have a look the threads from USA for example...You will see that there is nobody talking about this issue. Why? Because there are a great amount of pilots, so not shortage.
Americans are waiting to come back from Asia or Arabs Countries, etc to USA=HOME. We are still under the influence of the crisis, I mean the Western.
For instance, China has shortage of experienced Captains on TR such as A320.
Anyway, from your bottom of your heart, your post (Samca) shows a positive attitude. However, have a look the threads from USA for example...You will see that there is nobody talking about this issue. Why? Because there are a great amount of pilots, so not shortage.
Americans are waiting to come back from Asia or Arabs Countries, etc to USA=HOME. We are still under the influence of the crisis, I mean the Western.
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Yeah, sorry HT means TR, my mistake 
. But I'm speaking of shortage not today but in a few months or years. We will start to feel this new situation in next summer, you will see. It is not inmediate, for me there is a lot o circunstances.
First retirement of pilots reaching 65,
Second, new regulation in USA,
The market in Asia is going to grow up too much.
The crisis also has done that banks give you peanuts if you going to buy a piece of paper, 100.000 euros do you want?, the bank says ok, I need that sign your father, your mother, your uncle, your autum, your grandfather... Even your neighbour. As a result a lot of Fly schools bankrupt, at least here in Europe.
So if there is a lot of USA pilots coming back to their country becouse there will be not enough qualifed pilots for flying in USA airlines.it will be open a nice hole in Asia or whatever they are flying.
Also another positive factor is 2013 last year of crisis so...
I know that I can seem too much optimist but I see like that.
. But I'm speaking of shortage not today but in a few months or years. We will start to feel this new situation in next summer, you will see. It is not inmediate, for me there is a lot o circunstances.First retirement of pilots reaching 65,
Second, new regulation in USA,
The market in Asia is going to grow up too much.
The crisis also has done that banks give you peanuts if you going to buy a piece of paper, 100.000 euros do you want?, the bank says ok, I need that sign your father, your mother, your uncle, your autum, your grandfather... Even your neighbour. As a result a lot of Fly schools bankrupt, at least here in Europe.
So if there is a lot of USA pilots coming back to their country becouse there will be not enough qualifed pilots for flying in USA airlines.it will be open a nice hole in Asia or whatever they are flying.
Also another positive factor is 2013 last year of crisis so...
I know that I can seem too much optimist but I see like that.
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Not a chance Samca
By next summer ther are going to be thousands of experenced pilots coming on the market as there will be some big collapses proberly about Feb/Mar.
So yes there will be a change in circumstances but it ain't going to be pretty and certainly won't get low houred pilots jobs.
By next summer ther are going to be thousands of experenced pilots coming on the market as there will be some big collapses proberly about Feb/Mar.
So yes there will be a change in circumstances but it ain't going to be pretty and certainly won't get low houred pilots jobs.
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3000 people on ryan's database alone. Imagine how many people are not even on their lost because they cant pay for a tr so no point in applying
Your deluded to think there is a shortage.
Your deluded to think there is a shortage.
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This is like a chain, I'm not telling that the situation changes inmediatly for Low hour pilots, BUT if the pilots with some experience like me (2500 hrs and 1500 jet time plus two TR) can find a job in an airline will leave our job ( FI, Ambulance, charters, parachutes) for you guys.
The problem It has been that everything has been stuck for 5 years, It must to start to run again and honestly I think aviation is gonna change very soon.
Why you think that we going to be overcrewed in Feb or March mad_Jock? Give me a convincent reason?,
You will see what happen in Asia before the end of this year!
The problem It has been that everything has been stuck for 5 years, It must to start to run again and honestly I think aviation is gonna change very soon.
Why you think that we going to be overcrewed in Feb or March mad_Jock? Give me a convincent reason?,
You will see what happen in Asia before the end of this year!
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Nothing will change, get use to it....
there is no more expansion, only few retired pilots but not enough to create a mass hiring of pilots.
Sorry, time to apply at tesco for most of us apparently.
there is no more expansion, only few retired pilots but not enough to create a mass hiring of pilots.
Sorry, time to apply at tesco for most of us apparently.
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In Europe yeah we will continúe but I'm speaking of Asia and USA.
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What's behind pilot shortage threat? | News - Home
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What's behind pilot shortage threat? | News - Home
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The Air Line Pilots Association said the shortage is being hyped up. The group said the solution lies in a more competitive North American airline industry that can better compete with global competitors.
"With consistently profitable and stable airlines, our industry can offer the salary, benefits and job security that will retain and attract the most qualified pilots, now and in the future," said the Air Line Pilots Association.
"With consistently profitable and stable airlines, our industry can offer the salary, benefits and job security that will retain and attract the most qualified pilots, now and in the future," said the Air Line Pilots Association.
When they increase the terms and conditions for regional pilots they will get the seats filled.
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listen to experience
Nice statement... Wirbelsturm!
listen to pilots who know the business :-) ... Also my colleagues from the LTU/airberlin who fly since the 80s say that there never really was a shortage (besides 2006).
Since decades the press is writing about pilot's shortage and I dont know how much they get from the Flight Schools.
A man working for the german employment agency for pilots in Frankfurt told me that the years ending with a six (1976,1986,1996,2006) are the good years. Let´s see what is happening in 2016.
Germanys working agency counts around 1000 jobless pilots. But 3000 licence holders have a job as Ramp Agents, McDonalds, Cabin Crew or something else. In the Netherlands there are 2000 pilots not working in a Flightdeck.
Good luck for you all
listen to pilots who know the business :-) ... Also my colleagues from the LTU/airberlin who fly since the 80s say that there never really was a shortage (besides 2006).
Since decades the press is writing about pilot's shortage and I dont know how much they get from the Flight Schools.
A man working for the german employment agency for pilots in Frankfurt told me that the years ending with a six (1976,1986,1996,2006) are the good years. Let´s see what is happening in 2016.
Germanys working agency counts around 1000 jobless pilots. But 3000 licence holders have a job as Ramp Agents, McDonalds, Cabin Crew or something else. In the Netherlands there are 2000 pilots not working in a Flightdeck.
Good luck for you all
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Samca;
According to your replies, you are an experienced and young pilot.
Have you applied for COPA?
On the other hand,
What would be your proposal?
Are you thinking in going to USA without the green card to get a job in general or regional aviation?
What would be your plan? Keep in mind that you would need two plans (A&B)
According to your replies, you are an experienced and young pilot.
Have you applied for COPA?
On the other hand,
What would be your proposal?
Are you thinking in going to USA without the green card to get a job in general or regional aviation?
What would be your plan? Keep in mind that you would need two plans (A&B)