British Airways Future Pilot Programme.

[N757CM]

ctc

Oh apologies. I see what you mean now. I have said stage 3 by accident in my first post. Meant to say stage 2.

[Azadpanchi]

Any clue about the next intake ? ? ?

[timbuck2]

CTC Stage 2

@N757CM

Phew! You had me worried for a minute there!

[LastPastthePost]

I think the general convention is:
Stage 1 - Applications being screened
Stage 2 - Tests (maybe group exercise depending on FTO)
Stage 3 - Interview
Stage 4 / Final Stage - BA Waterside.

Obviously Oxford and FTE combine Stage 2/3 into one day.

[N757CM]

ctc

Yeah, rather worryingly I am also waiting to hear back from stage 3 and managed to get mixed up.

[G-F0RC3]

I think everyone from all FTOs who have made it thus far are awaiting news with regard to whether they will be invited to the final stage at BA HQ or not.

I'm personally quite pleased to still be in the process, but have prepared myself psychologically for the more likely scenario of not making it any further this time around.

Good luck all.

[JPilot90]

So despite being told by OAA in December I was under consideration to go through to Waterside I've just been told I didn't quite make the cut..disappointed is an understatement! However my scores were high enough that they have offered me a place on their APP FO course.

Do you guys think this is an option worth looking in to? And if so, should I go through OAA's intergrated or modular scheme? Thanks for any advice.

[G-F0RC3]

JPilot90: I understand your disappointment. However, "under consideration" implies that it can go either way - and sounds like a generic term applied to candidates who are clearly good enough to become an airline pilot; but not necessarily good enough for the FPP (whatever good enough means). If I were you I'd try to take the positives from that.

I'd also be cautious about joining any of their self-sponsored courses. You might spend a huge amount of money and find yourself jobless and poor at the end of it all. Better to learn from the experience this time around and wait for the next FPP to open later in the year.

All the best for the future.

[Shawrey]

I understand your disappointment. However, "under consideration" implies that it can go either way - and sounds like a generic term applied to candidates who are clearly good enough to become an airline pilot; but not necessarily good enough for the FPP (whatever good enough means). If I were you I'd try to take the positives from that.

Nope. The people who were under consideration with Oxford had passed the criteria set by BA to make it down to Waterside. The only reason they didn't make it through was due lack of available spaces. 100 I'm led to believe for each FTO. Those people, including myself would have been able to have a very good go at getting onto the scheme and no doubt a few would have got on.

This selection process takes 4 months from start to finish and £250 of peoples hard earned money. I personally believe that if a candidate had passed the BA criteria, then they should have been able to show what they are made of down at Waterside regardless of numbers. Its not like time or money is an issue.

But hey, that's life.

[G-F0RC3]

That's interesting. At FTE we were told there was no limit on the numbers who could make it through to the final stage. So if we were all good enough then we'd make it.

Hard lines guys.

[JPilot90]

Agreed it is quite unusual given that different FTO's will have varying numbers of candidates so to pick 100 from each one seems strange. I do agree that if someone were to pass BA's criteria they should be given a chance but as Shawrey said, that's life.

I guess the best thing to do right now is to sit tight and apply for the next FPP.

[LastPastthePost]

The number of candidates historically taken to waterside is generally 3 x the number of places for each FTO.

First year: 90 places in total, 30 per FTO. Each FTO sends 90.

Last year: 72 places in total, 24 per FTO. Each FTO sends 72.

This year: 60 places in total, 20 per FTO. Each FTO sends 60 ?

The cost of selection only covers the FTO selection costs (and maybe a bit of profit too?). So the costs of the day at Waterside are covered by BA. The purpose of the FTO is to filter out the candidates, so I can see why BA want to limit it to the best x candidates.

Maybe FTE get some brownie points from BA for doing a more rigorous selection procedure and therefore send less than the limit? There are dangers in that too though..

[Runway 37]

Still, that would give you a disadvantage when applying through the FTO with the most applicants. Which, in my opinion, is unfair and not ideal for BA.

[Fostex]

If your goal is only getting to Waterside yes it is unfair, but once you get to the final selection it is irrelevant as BA will choose the best best candidates regardless of FTO. If you play gamesmanship with choice of FTO you are only fooling yourself.

[wilso10]

101 pages is too many to trawl through so hoping somebody could answer the following questions for me:

1. Has anyone on here successfully got through to the BA FPP? And if so, did they have any prior flying experience?

2. Any idea when the next BA FPP will open, is it always the latter part of the year?

[G-F0RC3]

1. Has anyone on here successfully got through to the BA FPP? And if so, did they have any prior flying experience?

Yes, lots. And I've personally never heard of any who made it without at least a little flying experience. Even half an hour in the sky will improve your chances of success significantly.

2. Any idea when the next BA FPP will open, is it always the latter part of the year?

Usually it's around Nov/Dec.

101 pages is too many to trawl through

There's a lot of very useful information in all of those pages. If you're serious about making a success of it, I'd highly recommend you spend the next few months reading through this topic.

[Bealzebub]

A shame, because if did "trawl" through the previous posts you would be able to answer your own questions. However, yes there are plenty of people who have successfully completed the qualification phases for FPP. No, nobody has any idea when the next programme will open. It depends on any number of variables. The past two have been late Autumn / Early Winter.

[wilso10]

I had a quick scan through to find the answers to my specific questions and couldn't find them so thought I'd chance it and get a quick response.

Thanks for the response guys.

[Stuart Sutcliffe]

101 pages is too many to trawl through so hoping somebody could answer the following questions for me:

I'd say you have just ruled yourself out of being selected by BA, or any other airline cadet program.

[Cessnaflyer87]

Does anyone know rough timescales from when people are going to find out if the have been successful in Stage 3 and are going to Waterside?