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Glider tuggie - 2006 as PPL
Finished CPL/IR/MCC training - Feb 2009
Para dropping - May 2009
Offered 1st airline role - Jan 2011
Lost medical - 7 days after job offer
Currently - touring NHS establishments and street drinking
And remember... if you can't take a joke you shouldn't have signed up!
Finished CPL/IR/MCC training - Feb 2009
Para dropping - May 2009
Offered 1st airline role - Jan 2011
Lost medical - 7 days after job offer
Currently - touring NHS establishments and street drinking
And remember... if you can't take a joke you shouldn't have signed up!
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First off, wanted to fly since 4 (?), 5 (?) years old!
Early 20s. Did not pass Class 1 medical. Laser eye surgery. One year later issued with Class 1.
Fail selection for sponsorship abinito training with European major. Bummer.
Still wanting to fly!
Uni. Aero Engineering major. Start gliding. Supermarket part time job to make end's meet and fund gliding.
PPL between 2nd and final year in US.
Hour building and ATPL groundschool.
IR in US. CPL in UK. ME/IR conversion in Espana.
While training for CPL get an interview for a BE200 corporate job. Pass it. Asked to show up for a second one after ME/IR part. Pass that too. Two weeks later management decide to get rid of airplane. Company would have paid for TR. Nice salary. Would have been too sweet.
Plan B had to be implemented. Had passed an interview for single engine freelance job earlier that year. Called those guys right after had been called by BE200 people. SE outfit had lost a guy so I get asked to start immediately. I relocate. Very little pay, great flying. Loving it.
Start applying on a massive scale now. Another interview for CRJ job. Pass CBT stuff, fail sim.
Another interview for TP regional. Pass all. Thrown in holding pool but never called to this day. Company about to to pack in.
Another interview, 757 job. No spare cash to do sim session beforehand so no surprise to fail sim. Trainers recommend to first learn the trade on TP equipment...
While still soaring the skies in my little SE call up a company doing survey work on a little bigger single and light twin. Asked to send in CV. Interview. Pass. Asked to drop by for test ride. Pass. They want to do another interview. Haggling over salary. Found common ground. Get offered job. About same time meet a guy who got me in line for another FO light twin job. No pay. Turn down the salary twin survey job as only VFR flying. I know, bit nuts though. Keep helping out the guys with the other light twin job for a few months. It's IFR multi pilot work so thought even though worse, or better say, non existing Ts and Cs (!) much better to learn the trade. Waiting for my turn. Turn never comes as applied for a temp job flying a vintage taildragger. Get it. While in the midst of working that gig another interview for another TP job pops up. Pass all. Get hired one month before taildragger contract ends. Company paid for TR.
Only a few months later laid off. World coming to an end but life had to go on.
Call light twin job people who I'd helped out and lucky me they were short of FOs that month. Asked to relocate. Get the job this time. Freelance, very little pay.
Been a helluva ride so far without much pay but have loved every single hour. Take away flying and I'd go nuts...
To all those wannabes, keep on keeping on!
Early 20s. Did not pass Class 1 medical. Laser eye surgery. One year later issued with Class 1.
Fail selection for sponsorship abinito training with European major. Bummer.
Still wanting to fly!
Uni. Aero Engineering major. Start gliding. Supermarket part time job to make end's meet and fund gliding.
PPL between 2nd and final year in US.
Hour building and ATPL groundschool.
IR in US. CPL in UK. ME/IR conversion in Espana.
While training for CPL get an interview for a BE200 corporate job. Pass it. Asked to show up for a second one after ME/IR part. Pass that too. Two weeks later management decide to get rid of airplane. Company would have paid for TR. Nice salary. Would have been too sweet.
Plan B had to be implemented. Had passed an interview for single engine freelance job earlier that year. Called those guys right after had been called by BE200 people. SE outfit had lost a guy so I get asked to start immediately. I relocate. Very little pay, great flying. Loving it.
Start applying on a massive scale now. Another interview for CRJ job. Pass CBT stuff, fail sim.
Another interview for TP regional. Pass all. Thrown in holding pool but never called to this day. Company about to to pack in.
Another interview, 757 job. No spare cash to do sim session beforehand so no surprise to fail sim. Trainers recommend to first learn the trade on TP equipment...
While still soaring the skies in my little SE call up a company doing survey work on a little bigger single and light twin. Asked to send in CV. Interview. Pass. Asked to drop by for test ride. Pass. They want to do another interview. Haggling over salary. Found common ground. Get offered job. About same time meet a guy who got me in line for another FO light twin job. No pay. Turn down the salary twin survey job as only VFR flying. I know, bit nuts though. Keep helping out the guys with the other light twin job for a few months. It's IFR multi pilot work so thought even though worse, or better say, non existing Ts and Cs (!) much better to learn the trade. Waiting for my turn. Turn never comes as applied for a temp job flying a vintage taildragger. Get it. While in the midst of working that gig another interview for another TP job pops up. Pass all. Get hired one month before taildragger contract ends. Company paid for TR.
Only a few months later laid off. World coming to an end but life had to go on.
Call light twin job people who I'd helped out and lucky me they were short of FOs that month. Asked to relocate. Get the job this time. Freelance, very little pay.
Been a helluva ride so far without much pay but have loved every single hour. Take away flying and I'd go nuts...
To all those wannabes, keep on keeping on!
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Offered 1st airline role - Jan 2011
Lost medical - 7 days after job offer
Lost medical - 7 days after job offer
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keep trying
CPL 1996, age 26.
First job in 1999 -2001 flying Piston single then twins.
Then Caribeean 2002-2003 Flying Piston Twins.
Turboprop job in Middle east 2004-6
Asian airline 2006-2009.
Corporate since then on a Gulfstream.
My advice is knock on doors and be prepared to travel, my first 3 jobs were all due to knocking on doors, be prepared to take a job doing anything in company....eventually u will get the flying gig. Never give up, its the best job ever weather u are flying a Cessna 206 or Gulfstream.
First job in 1999 -2001 flying Piston single then twins.
Then Caribeean 2002-2003 Flying Piston Twins.
Turboprop job in Middle east 2004-6
Asian airline 2006-2009.
Corporate since then on a Gulfstream.
My advice is knock on doors and be prepared to travel, my first 3 jobs were all due to knocking on doors, be prepared to take a job doing anything in company....eventually u will get the flying gig. Never give up, its the best job ever weather u are flying a Cessna 206 or Gulfstream.
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That is really awful. You have my sympathy. Is there any chance of getting your Class I back? Will you even be allowed a Class II for private flying?
Look after your health guys it all means
without that bit of paper from the doc!
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I have removed, for the following reasons, all references given by Davelongdon to a particular company that he has referred to
- the site registered to the person given in this post http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...t-support.html (check with Whois)
- the company is located in Longdon (company website)
- He stated his intention to start such a venture in October '10 http://www.pprune.org/interviews-job...et-please.html
- it is blatant advertising which is against the rules of Pprune and has earned him a little rest for a few days.
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Hi guys, second post here...=)
Started Integrated in 2006, finished in early 2008,
My Flight School actually offered me a job as a flight instructor (and the Instructor rating) two weeks later so I was pretty lucky...
Been working there since, not the best working conditions (€€) but almost 1500TT, wich isn't that bad...
Hoping for those better days...
Started Integrated in 2006, finished in early 2008,
My Flight School actually offered me a job as a flight instructor (and the Instructor rating) two weeks later so I was pretty lucky...
Been working there since, not the best working conditions (€€) but almost 1500TT, wich isn't that bad...
Hoping for those better days...
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-Started Integrated in 2003
-Finished 2005
-Interview+Job offer in December 2005, 737 with charter company. TR payed by company.
-moved to big "blue" EU legacy airline in 2007; started on Fokker 50, currently on B777
Hang in there guys
-Finished 2005
-Interview+Job offer in December 2005, 737 with charter company. TR payed by company.
-moved to big "blue" EU legacy airline in 2007; started on Fokker 50, currently on B777
Hang in there guys
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Finished integrated in 2010.
Started to fly turboprops in 2010 just some 2 months later.
Most of my colleagues (some 85%) who finished their integrated with me are flying now.
Started to fly turboprops in 2010 just some 2 months later.
Most of my colleagues (some 85%) who finished their integrated with me are flying now.
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February 1994 - Got an FAA CPL+IFR, unfortunately no opportunity at this time for a foreign pilot to stay as an instructor, so I just packed and returned home.
October 1996 - Almost got a job in a freight company flying two DC-3s, but it went bankrupt after my very first flight. That's life.
November 1996 - January 1997 - Tried to build up some flying time in a skydiving center, got only a few hours, no pay and large expenses, but had fun.
May 2011 - Started as a ground instructor for a ridiculous pay, and said to the VP that I wanted to kiss her when she handed me my first pay in seventeen years in aviation (it amounted to about £18). She has a sense of humor, so I still have my job.
Not a single interview for years, and regular dark thoughts involving rope or sleeping pills, until the sun finally shone again. Suddenly everything's so fast, even ground instructors around me barely stay six months on the job before being sucked up as F/O on A320, so future is bright at last. If you have no patience though, or are in short supply of hope, it's probably safer to consider another career. Nevertheless, reading all the previous posts, I guess the waiting time before securing a job is unpredictable.
October 1996 - Almost got a job in a freight company flying two DC-3s, but it went bankrupt after my very first flight. That's life.
November 1996 - January 1997 - Tried to build up some flying time in a skydiving center, got only a few hours, no pay and large expenses, but had fun.
May 2011 - Started as a ground instructor for a ridiculous pay, and said to the VP that I wanted to kiss her when she handed me my first pay in seventeen years in aviation (it amounted to about £18). She has a sense of humor, so I still have my job.
Not a single interview for years, and regular dark thoughts involving rope or sleeping pills, until the sun finally shone again. Suddenly everything's so fast, even ground instructors around me barely stay six months on the job before being sucked up as F/O on A320, so future is bright at last. If you have no patience though, or are in short supply of hope, it's probably safer to consider another career. Nevertheless, reading all the previous posts, I guess the waiting time before securing a job is unpredictable.
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Started ground theory Aug '08
Started flying Dec '08
PPL May '09
CPL Dec '09
SEIR Mar '10
C Cat Instructor Sept '10
Instructor job Oct '10-Current
First 'real' job sometime soon when the fun of Instructing runs out..
Started flying Dec '08
PPL May '09
CPL Dec '09
SEIR Mar '10
C Cat Instructor Sept '10
Instructor job Oct '10-Current
First 'real' job sometime soon when the fun of Instructing runs out..
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-Started Integrated in March 2008
-Finished in December 2009
Between January 2010 and May 2011:
-Worked for a Crew transportation company at Schiphol
-Worked for a B737 simulator (not certified sim) company as instructor
-Worked as a Flight Dispatcher at Dutch legacy airline
From May 2011:
-Got hired by German legacy airline (learned a new language)
-Also in holding pool (completed the selection) for Dutch legacy airline
I might say I'm very lucky to win the lottery compared to the situation of other Ab-Initio's. Even I hated that 16 months waiting periode while doing nice work in the airline industry. Can't image how sh*t it is for all guys to wait even longer with no/little improvement of job availability worldwide... Hope ya all find decent work in the airline industry soon!
-Finished in December 2009
Between January 2010 and May 2011:
-Worked for a Crew transportation company at Schiphol
-Worked for a B737 simulator (not certified sim) company as instructor
-Worked as a Flight Dispatcher at Dutch legacy airline
From May 2011:
-Got hired by German legacy airline (learned a new language)
-Also in holding pool (completed the selection) for Dutch legacy airline
I might say I'm very lucky to win the lottery compared to the situation of other Ab-Initio's. Even I hated that 16 months waiting periode while doing nice work in the airline industry. Can't image how sh*t it is for all guys to wait even longer with no/little improvement of job availability worldwide... Hope ya all find decent work in the airline industry soon!
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Finished mod training Aug 2001. Instructed between 2002 - 2005, Rhs Airbus 2005, converted onto 747 early 2009. Not what you know more who you know. Enjoy your time in GA as you will never really be in a financial position later in life to revisit it full time. I remember airline pilots telling me when I was an instructor that they would gladly change jobs with me. I wholeheartedly agree especially when doing an uneventful long trans pacific or ****ting myself flying into India during monsoon season!!!!
Good Luck
Good Luck