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Given such a scenario I, personally, would take a 3000 hour Helo pilot new to the airline game over a 3000 Cadet who has never experienced malfunctions outside of the simulator.
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Anybody with 3000 hours would probably be past the cadet stage with a fair few malfunction ripping yarns to boot.
Given the reliability of modern airliners I am aware of colleagues who have never had more than a minor, niggle malfunction outside of the simulator in years.
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Well, 200 hours for license and about 750 hours a year on average would give you over 3 years experience.
When you say that is not a lot, you then have to say the same about the accountancy discussion going on a bit earlier. How much of their day is spent doing the actual high level accountancy and how much is spent at lunch, searching for porn on google, doing boring random tasks etc etc...
Experience comes in all shapes and sizes and as Airbus girl pointed out earlier, you could be a 10 000 hour captain flying Sydney to Melbourne and back, hardly makes you experienced at aviation, just experienced on that particular route
The guy that has 3000 hours on King Airs and caravans, doing actual hands on flying in remote regions of the world where airport and ATC services can be described as dodgy at best is a far more experienced and better equiped pilot to deal with emergencies than the 10000 hour guy in an airbus on autopilot flying the same route over and over.
When you say that is not a lot, you then have to say the same about the accountancy discussion going on a bit earlier. How much of their day is spent doing the actual high level accountancy and how much is spent at lunch, searching for porn on google, doing boring random tasks etc etc...
Experience comes in all shapes and sizes and as Airbus girl pointed out earlier, you could be a 10 000 hour captain flying Sydney to Melbourne and back, hardly makes you experienced at aviation, just experienced on that particular route
The guy that has 3000 hours on King Airs and caravans, doing actual hands on flying in remote regions of the world where airport and ATC services can be described as dodgy at best is a far more experienced and better equiped pilot to deal with emergencies than the 10000 hour guy in an airbus on autopilot flying the same route over and over.
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The guy that has 3000 hours on King Airs and caravans, doing actual hands on flying in remote regions of the world where airport and ATC services can be described as dodgy at best is a far more experienced and better equiped pilot to deal with emergencies than the 10000 hour guy in an airbus on autopilot flying the same route over and over.
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Anyone can read a checklist Mike. What you are forgetting is that a caravan or king air is often flown SP. That means the pilot has to FLY the aeroplane whilst dealing with the emergency, single crew? - try that on your next OPC - unlikely. I doubt you grasp the amount of spare capacity that would be needed in this scenario, no multi crew cockpit here! Most of these guys who fly twins & hi perf singles SP for a living rehearse these scenarios pre firewalling the throttles.
They live longer that way.
Don't underestimate a competent charter pilot!
As for seeing every possible emergency, twice a year in the sim? We all know that is impossible.
They live longer that way.
Don't underestimate a competent charter pilot!
As for seeing every possible emergency, twice a year in the sim? We all know that is impossible.
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Shaun, I wasnt poo pooing single pilot ops. On the contrary I have the utmost respect for people who do this kind of flying. I was referring to dealing with emergencies in a typical multicrew jet. Take 2 new FO's, one straight from Gatwick with his still wet blue book, the other from his 2000 hours in a King Air, and put them both through the same Boeing/Bus TR course and give them the same SOP's and vital memory actions to learn. Which one will handle the engine failure post V1 best?? Some on here would argue without question the 2000 hour guy would deal with it better....why?
Yes, im playing devils advocate here.....,off course its the 'outside the box' situtions which crop up that the 2000 hour pilot has the experience to deal with. I dont think anyone would argue that point.
Yes, im playing devils advocate here.....,off course its the 'outside the box' situtions which crop up that the 2000 hour pilot has the experience to deal with. I dont think anyone would argue that point.
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charter pilot, fighter planes, bush pilot, is the way to go if you want an exciting life.
be a copilot on big jet are for pussy! How I know it, did both.
nothing better than a single pilot plane( caravan, twotter, bonanza,....), with 1 or 2 turbines, at night, full IMC, NDB approach between mountains.no gps, no radar,...
very few copilot have the ball for this kind of operation. This is why my companies do not hire big jet pilots.
be a copilot on big jet are for pussy! How I know it, did both.
nothing better than a single pilot plane( caravan, twotter, bonanza,....), with 1 or 2 turbines, at night, full IMC, NDB approach between mountains.no gps, no radar,...
very few copilot have the ball for this kind of operation. This is why my companies do not hire big jet pilots.
