Actual numbers out of a job
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Actual numbers out of a job
A lot of guys on this site are very negative, probably as they don't yet have a job. Does anyone have actual figures on the numbers of qualified jar pilots unemployed and employed. This would maybe support what most brag about which is "no jobs". At the end of the day there are people getting employed - from any school as long as they are good enough!
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'At the end of the day there are people getting employed - from any school as long as they are good enough!'
This is excessively and possibly dangerously positive. This statement shows a serious lack of life experience and market awareness. 'Being good enough' - does that include people who pay2fly, people who just happen to 'know someone' etc etc.
This statement suggests that those not employed are not 'good enough' and seems to suggest that you have total faith in airline recruitment principles as being completely meritocratic.
This is excessively and possibly dangerously positive. This statement shows a serious lack of life experience and market awareness. 'Being good enough' - does that include people who pay2fly, people who just happen to 'know someone' etc etc.
This statement suggests that those not employed are not 'good enough' and seems to suggest that you have total faith in airline recruitment principles as being completely meritocratic.
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unemployed, I estimate 6000 unemployed pilots in europe .
If you are talking about job seeking experience pilots I think you'll find that there are nowhere near that many out of work.
The situation is changing fairly quickly too, at the begining of the year there were no jobs for love nor money, except in the sand pit . Now , in the UK at least, BA,Virgin, Easy, jet2 , Monarch etc are all starting to dip there toes back into the recruitment pond. This together with the ME and FE operators looking for experience pilots is going to see a more buoyant job market for all levels of pilots.
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there are 4700 registered wannabee , in Italy is a fact that there are 1000+ unemloyed experienced heavy jet pilots from ex alitalia who lives on benefits by government. I believe that in all europe only there are more then 6000 unemployed pilots and the jobs absorbtion is LESS then the new pilots made by the schools .
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Could very easily be 6k experenced type rated pilots out of work in europe.
Olympic had 1200 pilots who are all still being payed by the greek goverment.
As for how many wannabies are out of luck?
Easily way over 6k in europe. How many are actively looking for work and are current enough to have a realistic chance; significantly less but over a thousand in my estimation.
Olympic had 1200 pilots who are all still being payed by the greek goverment.
As for how many wannabies are out of luck?
Easily way over 6k in europe. How many are actively looking for work and are current enough to have a realistic chance; significantly less but over a thousand in my estimation.
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Guys, there's no point guessing. Clob is looking for accurate figures here. And I know a fairly easy way to find out. I think we will all benefit from finding this out.
So Clob, you should count them! (until such time as you get a job).
I'll start you off....I'm one.
So thats....1,
so far so good!
And I'm guessing you're one....
So thats....2....
Anyone else help Clob out here?
So Clob, you should count them! (until such time as you get a job).
I'll start you off....I'm one.
So thats....1,
so far so good!
And I'm guessing you're one....
So thats....2....
Anyone else help Clob out here?
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Apologies for posting something that might be useful, but looking at caa stats there were 17,056 cpl (a) or atpl (a) holders in the uk in 2008. There were a total of 10,690 pilots employed by uk airlines for the same year. This excludes ryanair, where I would guess there are 1,000 uk pilots working (total guess, sorry). So, there would be over 5000 pilots who are not flying with airlines in the uk, but hold the liscenses to do so.
If these stats are correct it's not a pretty picture.
If these stats are correct it's not a pretty picture.
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take a seat...and smoke a cigarette...
the number of unemployed pilots in Europe is over 60,000
. what?? no no, that's impossible
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spain 5000, italy 6000, portugal 3000, france 6000, germany 5000, greece 3000, sweden 3000, nordway 3000...
should I continue? are you motivated enough to fly tomorrow in your oxford flight club...sorry academy.
your chance to land a job are 1:60,000. something like 0,0001%
your chance to be fired if you are lucky enough to find a job is 99,9%
don't jump from your terrasse now, I have a good new for you, your chance to end up at macdo to flip some nice cheeseburgers is 120%
the number of unemployed pilots in Europe is over 60,000
. what?? no no, that's impossible...spain 5000, italy 6000, portugal 3000, france 6000, germany 5000, greece 3000, sweden 3000, nordway 3000...
should I continue? are you motivated enough to fly tomorrow in your oxford flight club...sorry academy.
your chance to land a job are 1:60,000. something like 0,0001%
your chance to be fired if you are lucky enough to find a job is 99,9%
don't jump from your terrasse now, I have a good new for you, your chance to end up at macdo to flip some nice cheeseburgers is 120%