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but it s not flying. the 737 is old tech...what do you learn at ryan
/, move the gear lever, and flaps setting? what else? oh yes, read the check list...
do you fly the plane, how many X wind landing have you done manually there? probably none.
still better than nothing, but for me, a ryanair pilot worth less than nothing!
/, move the gear lever, and flaps setting? what else? oh yes, read the check list...
do you fly the plane, how many X wind landing have you done manually there? probably none.
still better than nothing, but for me, a ryanair pilot worth less than nothing!
we could argue we worked harder to ensure we passed all the training we required, to avoid any further costs!
Moreover, although I obtained a personal loan to pay for my TR, my hugely reduced tax liability for the first year at Ryanair easily offset the loan repayments. When deciding whether to pay for a TR at Ryanair you must do your maths. Look at your net financial position after 5 years. Despite paying for a TR you will have taken home, before tax, around €300,000. You will also be a Captain and have about 3750 hours (incl. 800 PIC) on a modern B737-800.Compare that reality with working your way up the aviation ladder. Torque Tonight has already rightly pointed out that this is almost impossible in the current industry. But assuming you buy yourself an instructor's rating and find a low-paid instructing job, then manage to find a Turbo-prop job after a couple of years, over the same time frame you'd be lucky to earn €75,000 and build 2500 hours on light aircraft.
Ryanair's image may be relatively poor, but operational and training standards, not to mention safety standards, are very high. Evidence is easy to find: see ATC Level Bust and SID/STAR compliance, punctuality, bag loss, and accident statistics. Whatever the Company's failings, you can't reasonable complain that Ryanair
diminish this "profession" with substandard practises
visions of grandeur [who] then complain when no one will hire them!
By the way, where can I find these
4 oiled-up Rio carnival girls
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Most people with low hours complaining about Ryanair, do it because of envy, either they have not been selected or they don't have the funds to pay for their TR.
I have personally never been a great fan of the airline, however to be honest, if given the chance I would take it would open arms, rather that then be a bitter hypocrite on these forums!
I believe most of you low hour guys, even being negative, if you had been selected or had the money you would have taken the job too!
For what your morales and ethics are worth, I would say who cares, in today's market a job is a job, and very unlikely you will get better start then with Ryanair!
I know of FIC's with close to 2000 hours, working full time, but stuck, because they don't have money to renew their IR!
For every pilot who preaches about their high morale standards, there is an equal opposite pilot looking to give young pilot's dreams and scam them of their hard earned cash, with promises of assessments, TR's and line training, which will lead to nothing else then massive debts.
At least Ryanair offers and option to avoid those vultures standing on every corner waiting for their prey.
Unfortunately some of you guys now sitting cosy in your LH or RH seat, after several years, have not been able to see what has happen with your companies.
Nearly nobody want to pay for your TR any-more, it is now widely expected that nearly everyone pays for their own TR, now even without a proper job contract/offer!
You can come with silly phrases about smelling the coffee, however I know of FO's at RYR taking home 3 times what an FI does! Not only that, after 3 - 4 years they either get command or go to much better companies, and do you know what? The major companies love to hire them, because they have received good training by Ryanair.
I know of 15 - 20 pilots just now recently going to Norwegian from RYR. Plenty gone to BA too, so what's the issue!
I could be bitter and say it all sucks, because I don't get an interview, I rather say good luck to you guys who got the chance, there is no better option around today for low hour pilots to get into the big league this fast, and that's all thanks to RYR.
BA did similar in the past, but they was just much more selective in the start, because they was paying for your training. However imagine at RYR, you can leave when you want, no long bonding times! They give you freedom to choose, if you choose other career like working in Tesco's instead of accepting working for RYR, you are the fool, not them!
I have personally never been a great fan of the airline, however to be honest, if given the chance I would take it would open arms, rather that then be a bitter hypocrite on these forums!
I believe most of you low hour guys, even being negative, if you had been selected or had the money you would have taken the job too!
For what your morales and ethics are worth, I would say who cares, in today's market a job is a job, and very unlikely you will get better start then with Ryanair!
I know of FIC's with close to 2000 hours, working full time, but stuck, because they don't have money to renew their IR!
For every pilot who preaches about their high morale standards, there is an equal opposite pilot looking to give young pilot's dreams and scam them of their hard earned cash, with promises of assessments, TR's and line training, which will lead to nothing else then massive debts.
At least Ryanair offers and option to avoid those vultures standing on every corner waiting for their prey.
Unfortunately some of you guys now sitting cosy in your LH or RH seat, after several years, have not been able to see what has happen with your companies.
Nearly nobody want to pay for your TR any-more, it is now widely expected that nearly everyone pays for their own TR, now even without a proper job contract/offer!
You can come with silly phrases about smelling the coffee, however I know of FO's at RYR taking home 3 times what an FI does! Not only that, after 3 - 4 years they either get command or go to much better companies, and do you know what? The major companies love to hire them, because they have received good training by Ryanair.
I know of 15 - 20 pilots just now recently going to Norwegian from RYR. Plenty gone to BA too, so what's the issue!
I could be bitter and say it all sucks, because I don't get an interview, I rather say good luck to you guys who got the chance, there is no better option around today for low hour pilots to get into the big league this fast, and that's all thanks to RYR.
BA did similar in the past, but they was just much more selective in the start, because they was paying for your training. However imagine at RYR, you can leave when you want, no long bonding times! They give you freedom to choose, if you choose other career like working in Tesco's instead of accepting working for RYR, you are the fool, not them!
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I think everyone would agree that that sort of racket is a turd sandwich. I've said it already on this thread with reference to the Asian pay for hours then we sack you deals. No-one would argue with that. However, comparing Ryanair to these P2F scams is simply inaccurate.
From what I've heard, Canadian bush flying is a pretty closed shop, and a European abbo coming across looking for the self-improver route is unlikely to get results.
I looked at bush flying in Africa. That too is pretty saturated. MAF would have taken me but they wanted me for 4 years effectively unpaid.
I could go on but trust me, in Europe someone with an offer of a firm F/O position in Ryanair, or similar, would be mad to turn it down, even with the TR costs.
Look outside your little box of Europe
I looked at bush flying in Africa. That too is pretty saturated. MAF would have taken me but they wanted me for 4 years effectively unpaid.
I could go on but trust me, in Europe someone with an offer of a firm F/O position in Ryanair, or similar, would be mad to turn it down, even with the TR costs.
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Well I am in a hurry due to my age, however I do agree if I was 21 I would not need to be in such a hurry.
But look down the food chain, I might have a chance to get an Air Taxi job, but if I want to be in the game I have to pay my own TR! Why?
Because if not others will be offered the job instead, who already have the TR! So I have no choice.
I can stick with my principles and say no, I will not pay, but what will that help me? Somebody else will take the job instead!
Well I am in a hurry due to my age, however I do agree if I was 21 I would not need to be in such a hurry.
But look down the food chain, I might have a chance to get an Air Taxi job, but if I want to be in the game I have to pay my own TR! Why?
Because if not others will be offered the job instead, who already have the TR! So I have no choice.
I can stick with my principles and say no, I will not pay, but what will that help me? Somebody else will take the job instead!
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GD123 & other new joiners:
Just out of interest lads, what's the captains hourly rate in your brookfield contracts? (It's written on the last page.) Is it still 138 something or is it down to 97 euro's/ hour?
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Hi, any chance you can elaborate on the job opportunities you are on about, ie where they are? Not aving a go at you just curious as I have been unsuccesfully searching.many thanks.
