Train now or hold out?
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Well its all pretty grim but little ol low hours me finally has a job. 2 and a half years of painful wait since I finished my training, low and behold I start with a UK airline next month. Came completely out of the blue. Bonded TR and a great company, cant wait to get started. Just wanted to share a small(possibly minute!) chink of light in an otherwise doom filled abyss of gloom!
Oh, that's nice. Really chuffed for you. Its been a long and worrying wait for you and in the end you've scored a conventional training bond first job with (I suspect) an excellent employer.
After some more hard work for the course you'll be loving going to work within a couple of months and not many can say the same.
Enjoy it.
WWW
After some more hard work for the course you'll be loving going to work within a couple of months and not many can say the same.
Enjoy it.
WWW
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Blackred1443: I'll tell you right now what the Terms and Conditions for FOs (and any pilot for that matter) will be in 18 months......complete ****. There is your answer and you didn't even have to wait 18 months! 
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Hi aimskyhigh
Just read your post and thought I'd let you know my situation as I was in a similar position to where you are and had a big decision to make.
Back around April/May of this year I passed selection and was 100% set on starting training, I had read all WWW warnings and put it down to him being a old grumpy man.
Anyway, the the more time went on and the date got closer to having to commit to the loan the more I kept questioning my decision to start training. Its a tough place to be especially when your so enthusiastic and determined to follow a dream. After a long time of trying to kid myself, I decided that it was too much of a risk to borrow such vast sums of money in such an uncertain time.
Like I said, it was a tough decision and a bit of a gutting conclusion when your so focused and set on reaching your goals.
Anyway, I decided I couldnt do it and that I would wait a year or 2.
I had resigned to the fact that i'm going to hold out for while, so I concluded that I may as well use the time to try and make enough money to enable myself to not have to borrow any, or if nothing else make a considerable dent in my borrowings.
Ideally I only want to wait 12 months, to go from post grad to 70k a year is a tall order so i decided to start my own business. I have been working on it ever since and am coming to the point where I am extremely close to launching it now.
My friend decided to go ahead with the course and although its like a kick in a balls when he uploads all this pictures, I know I did the right thing and I'm having so much fun starting my business.
My advice to you is ultimately do what you feel is right and follow your gut, not your heart.
I'd have loved to go travelling if I had the money, if its a viable option for you then go do it!!!!
Airliners will always need flying, come back in 12-18 months and have a look at the situation then.
I also think I ow an apology to WWW and a thank you!
Just read your post and thought I'd let you know my situation as I was in a similar position to where you are and had a big decision to make.
Back around April/May of this year I passed selection and was 100% set on starting training, I had read all WWW warnings and put it down to him being a old grumpy man.
Anyway, the the more time went on and the date got closer to having to commit to the loan the more I kept questioning my decision to start training. Its a tough place to be especially when your so enthusiastic and determined to follow a dream. After a long time of trying to kid myself, I decided that it was too much of a risk to borrow such vast sums of money in such an uncertain time.
Like I said, it was a tough decision and a bit of a gutting conclusion when your so focused and set on reaching your goals.
Anyway, I decided I couldnt do it and that I would wait a year or 2.
I had resigned to the fact that i'm going to hold out for while, so I concluded that I may as well use the time to try and make enough money to enable myself to not have to borrow any, or if nothing else make a considerable dent in my borrowings.
Ideally I only want to wait 12 months, to go from post grad to 70k a year is a tall order so i decided to start my own business. I have been working on it ever since and am coming to the point where I am extremely close to launching it now.
My friend decided to go ahead with the course and although its like a kick in a balls when he uploads all this pictures, I know I did the right thing and I'm having so much fun starting my business.
My advice to you is ultimately do what you feel is right and follow your gut, not your heart.
I'd have loved to go travelling if I had the money, if its a viable option for you then go do it!!!!
Airliners will always need flying, come back in 12-18 months and have a look at the situation then.
I also think I ow an apology to WWW and a thank you!
I also think I ow an apology to WWW and a thank you!
I'm glad you've not put yourself into an almost unworkable situation and that you'll be free to enter commercial aviation at a more viable time. Undoubtably a good move to have made. Good luck with the new business.
When you get so big you need a corporate jet then bear me in mind for Chief Pilot, eh?
WWW
ps Male and often Grumpy but closer to 30 than 40 so not exactly old old..
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Train now or hold out? ... I'm holding out.
You can't really plan in the industry. I have changed my plans half a dozen times. From Zero-Hero course in the US 3 years ago (18 month course), training in South Africa when the rand was 19 to the pound as well as training with numerous schools in the UK.
Timing would never have been right if I had chosen any of them. If I had taken the US route I'd have had my fATPL 18 months ago with no sniff at a job and a £35k debt.
PPL / Night and possibly IMC as about as far as I'd push it in this climate. My ego isn’t big enough to think that in 2 years time I'll get chosen over a an ex-BMI, Zoom etc pilot with X,000hrs on jet for a job in the RHS.
I was aiming at 2012 to have my fATPL but I'm starting to wonder if the economy will settled by then, how many airlines will be in operation, whether or not they will be recruiting and how long the queue will be with redundant pilots for yesterday and tomorrow as well as ex-instructors and military pilots looking to transfer to airlines.
One day I'll have my fATPL, but for now I'm going to enjoy flying, be it in a microlight, glider or 172 and enjoying the ride to the airfield in the summer on my motorbike.
... Learn from the mistakes of others and if you take note of posters on here make sure it' WWW.
You can't really plan in the industry. I have changed my plans half a dozen times. From Zero-Hero course in the US 3 years ago (18 month course), training in South Africa when the rand was 19 to the pound as well as training with numerous schools in the UK.
Timing would never have been right if I had chosen any of them. If I had taken the US route I'd have had my fATPL 18 months ago with no sniff at a job and a £35k debt.
PPL / Night and possibly IMC as about as far as I'd push it in this climate. My ego isn’t big enough to think that in 2 years time I'll get chosen over a an ex-BMI, Zoom etc pilot with X,000hrs on jet for a job in the RHS.
I was aiming at 2012 to have my fATPL but I'm starting to wonder if the economy will settled by then, how many airlines will be in operation, whether or not they will be recruiting and how long the queue will be with redundant pilots for yesterday and tomorrow as well as ex-instructors and military pilots looking to transfer to airlines.
One day I'll have my fATPL, but for now I'm going to enjoy flying, be it in a microlight, glider or 172 and enjoying the ride to the airfield in the summer on my motorbike.
... Learn from the mistakes of others and if you take note of posters on here make sure it' WWW.
