Eaglejet Airlines
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Thank you 16AoA for your preserverance and keeping the good info flowing here. I'm also looking EJ to do a 500h A319, so any expirience from people who have done it is very important.
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Mikehammer & 16AoA you're so right ! Plenty of excellent turboprop riders out there trapped in these situation with no career enhancement prospects in the pipeline (even when times are good!), because of seeing god damned wanabees bypassing the queue by enrolling in these pay to fly schemes.
So the only choice left for them is to take the same route with sometimes thousands of hours under the belt.... What a shame !
So the only choice left for them is to take the same route with sometimes thousands of hours under the belt.... What a shame !
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Join Date: May 2004
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Safety
Imagine being operated on by a "surgeon" who had paid for all his medical training, without selection, who had jumped over selected medical students who could not afford to attend medical school without "self-sponsorship".
A "surgeon" who could afford to be one, not one who was good enough to qualify on merit.
Not very good for those who value their lives.
A "surgeon" who could afford to be one, not one who was good enough to qualify on merit.
Not very good for those who value their lives.
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Eaglejet
You guys are completely wrong - do you seriously think an airline would compromise its safety standards and reputation to give a substandard pilot, even if he came from EagleJet, a chance?
Since even FR charges for type rating, all EJ does is offer 300/500 hours line training for Euros 12-20,000 - WAY less than the cost of chartering a Seneca and doing that time yourself and, with EJ, you get jet time, not MEP time, and great exposure to airline operations.
In an earlier post, I explained that I thought the EJ programme was actually a form of probationary period - sure you paid for line training and got the hours, but the real benefit was that the airline could see you in action over 300 or 500 hours - an extended form of probationary period. If they liked what they saw, they'd offer a permanent job - if they didn't like the way you flew, then at least you got 300 or 500 hours.
Well, I was right - check back and you'll see I talked about 2 EJ pilots I know doing 300 Airbus hours at a European airline - well, both were offered permanent jobs that will very quickly repay the cost of the line training - probably in less than 3 months as their airline has a good base salary and a reasonable flying pay per hour. After the 3 month period, they will be significantly better off month over month than if they were working for FR, who seem to be the only other employer around, although not, obviously, for the Airbus.
By the way, their contemporaries from their FTO are still unemployed - approaching a year now - whereas these 2 are passing 600 hours of jet time and have permanent jobs flying into major European airports. Who made the right decision? Antonov, Beak, Dick Byrne et al won't agree, but I think I know who got it right.
Fogey
Since even FR charges for type rating, all EJ does is offer 300/500 hours line training for Euros 12-20,000 - WAY less than the cost of chartering a Seneca and doing that time yourself and, with EJ, you get jet time, not MEP time, and great exposure to airline operations.
In an earlier post, I explained that I thought the EJ programme was actually a form of probationary period - sure you paid for line training and got the hours, but the real benefit was that the airline could see you in action over 300 or 500 hours - an extended form of probationary period. If they liked what they saw, they'd offer a permanent job - if they didn't like the way you flew, then at least you got 300 or 500 hours.
Well, I was right - check back and you'll see I talked about 2 EJ pilots I know doing 300 Airbus hours at a European airline - well, both were offered permanent jobs that will very quickly repay the cost of the line training - probably in less than 3 months as their airline has a good base salary and a reasonable flying pay per hour. After the 3 month period, they will be significantly better off month over month than if they were working for FR, who seem to be the only other employer around, although not, obviously, for the Airbus.
By the way, their contemporaries from their FTO are still unemployed - approaching a year now - whereas these 2 are passing 600 hours of jet time and have permanent jobs flying into major European airports. Who made the right decision? Antonov, Beak, Dick Byrne et al won't agree, but I think I know who got it right.
Fogey
