Oxford Aviation/FlyBe MPL
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Well, well, well, Shaun, we meet again.
Actually, not a bad post - without wishing to be patronising.
The one point I HAVE to pick up on though is your comparison of the 2000hr GA pilot to the 200 hour newbie. Of course....OF COURSE...the 2000 hour pilot is going to be infinitely more capable on the flight deck of whatever type than the 200 hour newbie. But then you're not even close to comparing apples with apples.
To illustrate this, if we accept that - via whatever route you choose to train (it really is irrelevant here), you will have somewhere between 200 and 300 hours when you gain your professional licences, then to get to 2000 hours total time you need to be flying pretty much your max legal hours for two years AFTER finishing. What you are therefore doing is comparing someone with 2 years professional flying with someone who's only just got the licence. Not really a like for like comparison...and certainly you could apply it to any walk of life. A sparky with two years experience vs one that's just finished their apprenticeship? A 17 year old that's just past their driving test vs someone that's been driving for 2 years? All have obvious winners, but none are indicative of anything other than an experience gap.
The fairer comparison is between two people who both finish on the same date in the same year, one who goes directly to the RHS and one who goes the GA route. When they BOTH have 2000 hours, who would you rather be flown by? Really?
I'm not decrying the GA route - I honestly do think that it probably offers more "fun" flying than you'll get in the airlines, but the fact is that my cynicism remains as to whether 2000 hours Single pilot in an SEP is anything like as much value as 2000 hours on the type you're flying, in the way you're expected to operate it...
Actually, not a bad post - without wishing to be patronising.
The one point I HAVE to pick up on though is your comparison of the 2000hr GA pilot to the 200 hour newbie. Of course....OF COURSE...the 2000 hour pilot is going to be infinitely more capable on the flight deck of whatever type than the 200 hour newbie. But then you're not even close to comparing apples with apples.
To illustrate this, if we accept that - via whatever route you choose to train (it really is irrelevant here), you will have somewhere between 200 and 300 hours when you gain your professional licences, then to get to 2000 hours total time you need to be flying pretty much your max legal hours for two years AFTER finishing. What you are therefore doing is comparing someone with 2 years professional flying with someone who's only just got the licence. Not really a like for like comparison...and certainly you could apply it to any walk of life. A sparky with two years experience vs one that's just finished their apprenticeship? A 17 year old that's just past their driving test vs someone that's been driving for 2 years? All have obvious winners, but none are indicative of anything other than an experience gap.
The fairer comparison is between two people who both finish on the same date in the same year, one who goes directly to the RHS and one who goes the GA route. When they BOTH have 2000 hours, who would you rather be flown by? Really?
I'm not decrying the GA route - I honestly do think that it probably offers more "fun" flying than you'll get in the airlines, but the fact is that my cynicism remains as to whether 2000 hours Single pilot in an SEP is anything like as much value as 2000 hours on the type you're flying, in the way you're expected to operate it...
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Yeah pal i had it this week. Its ok, a bit tough at times and the standard is higher than it is to get on the APPFO integrated course. Out of 16 in a group only 3 of us got told we may have a chance, the rest got told they would not be going any further. Has any one else been told the same who's lurking on here??
The tasks they had us doing are pretty much the standard team building, discussions and aptitude tests. Nothing too taxing and a very relaxed interview with 2 current pilots followed.
The tasks they had us doing are pretty much the standard team building, discussions and aptitude tests. Nothing too taxing and a very relaxed interview with 2 current pilots followed.
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Yeah I was told the same! Actually one of the managers told me that they received around 200 applications of which less than half were chosen. So I guess the groups are halved at each stage so going on that roughly 25 applicants will get to stage 3.
I had the assessment on 8th/9th. Of the twelve on Day 1, six of us got through to Day 2. I was told at the de-brief that one of the tests I did on day 1 could be my downfall in getting to stage 3 but it was far to early to say! At least there was no messing around and they were straight down the middle! Fingers crossed though...!!
I had the assessment on 8th/9th. Of the twelve on Day 1, six of us got through to Day 2. I was told at the de-brief that one of the tests I did on day 1 could be my downfall in getting to stage 3 but it was far to early to say! At least there was no messing around and they were straight down the middle! Fingers crossed though...!!
