OAA-APP First Officer Skills Assessment
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Hi,
I have been invited over for an assement as part of the OAA/FLYBE training scheme. I was wondering what and how to prepare? Any recommended sites or tips?
Any words of advice are greatly appreciated.
Best Regards,
Gabino
I have been invited over for an assement as part of the OAA/FLYBE training scheme. I was wondering what and how to prepare? Any recommended sites or tips?
Any words of advice are greatly appreciated.
Best Regards,
Gabino
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Hello everyone, I was thinking to apply for the APP first officer next April. I finished my A-levels last June and currently on my gap year. Can anyone give me some advice on how to prepare for the interview and all other stuffs, please. Thank you.
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As a fellow wannabe, I've not yet applied to the Oxford system, but I know 'TheBeak' did, and subsequently completed training and is now on the other side so listen to the chap!!!
Edit: Beak . hope you don't mind me quoting you
Edit: Beak . hope you don't mind me quoting you
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Pilot training in University is a bit time consuming I think, and when OAA offers pilot training with an academic Foundation Degree in Air Transport Management, why not try for OAA?
OAA offers pilot training with an academic Foundation Degree in Air Transport Management, why not try for OAA?
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I to am an OAA grad and although I loved it there, the degree they offer there is a joke, most people on courses there actually dont even bother with it. But except for that its a brilliant place to do your training.
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back to the subject of the thread. main thing to do is to get your GCSE maths and physics back up to scratch. in addition learn as much about yourself and flybe, read the news section on the flybe website. a lot of airline interview involve a lot of questions from their website so it's that hard to be honest.
as with the degree from OAA, it has very mixed views. personally, i already had a degree upon joining OAA and i never liked distant learning and it's exactly what the course is. my advice is therefore not to base your choice of flying school on a foundation degree
as with the degree from OAA, it has very mixed views. personally, i already had a degree upon joining OAA and i never liked distant learning and it's exactly what the course is. my advice is therefore not to base your choice of flying school on a foundation degree
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At the moment, I think that everybody going into flight training needs a back up option. Be that a degree, or a previous career etc...
I only say this because I know many people who went straight from school into flight training when the going was good - and now have emerged on the otherside without a job, and joined the hundreds, ne thousands, of people at the end of the line, with no jobs and looking around. When you put this together with the number who were made redundant from airlines going bust, you'll see it's a bleak market.
Whereas it will pick up eventually, now is not a time to be taking a £70000 gamble on a small chance without some form of back up plan.
I went to Oxford and got out of it about 2 years ago now, and was one of the lucky ones. But guys, before you committ to the training, can you please just ask yourself:
1/ Do I know what the impacts of spending/borrowing this amount of money are? (I want to buy a house, but quite simply cannot get the mortgage because of the amount of debt I'm in, even though I do earn money)
2/ If it all goes to dogs, what will I do at the end of the course?
3/ Yet again, if there's no chance of a job, how am I going to retain currency on my CPL/IR? - here I know quite a few people who have not flown in 2 years now because they can't afford it.
4/ What is my backup plan? Does my education support it? And if I do that, will I be able to pay back the minimum amount to the bank each month, while still being able to rent and live outside of it?
That's all really, and that's my advice to anyone who is thinking about starting training now.
Cheers - AD
I only say this because I know many people who went straight from school into flight training when the going was good - and now have emerged on the otherside without a job, and joined the hundreds, ne thousands, of people at the end of the line, with no jobs and looking around. When you put this together with the number who were made redundant from airlines going bust, you'll see it's a bleak market.
Whereas it will pick up eventually, now is not a time to be taking a £70000 gamble on a small chance without some form of back up plan.
I went to Oxford and got out of it about 2 years ago now, and was one of the lucky ones. But guys, before you committ to the training, can you please just ask yourself:
1/ Do I know what the impacts of spending/borrowing this amount of money are? (I want to buy a house, but quite simply cannot get the mortgage because of the amount of debt I'm in, even though I do earn money)
2/ If it all goes to dogs, what will I do at the end of the course?
3/ Yet again, if there's no chance of a job, how am I going to retain currency on my CPL/IR? - here I know quite a few people who have not flown in 2 years now because they can't afford it.
4/ What is my backup plan? Does my education support it? And if I do that, will I be able to pay back the minimum amount to the bank each month, while still being able to rent and live outside of it?
That's all really, and that's my advice to anyone who is thinking about starting training now.
Cheers - AD
I'd agree with the previous post. I'm ex-oxford integrated graduate and now earn peanuts as a part time instructor, not the outcome I had expected. But £70K later (+ an FI course) I'm a bit older and wiser and have had my eyes well and truly opened to the realities of an aviation career. If I had my time over again I would buy a Porsche with the money and not bother or would have gone the modular route. It seems to me that when times are good the integrated route has the slight advantage that it might get you a BA interview, in all other circumstances then I fail to see the advantages of integrated - perhaps an airline recruiter could comment on the pros and cons from their perspective?
On a more positive note, I'm glad in a way that circumstances have sent me down the FI route, as although the money is poor I'm getting a fantastic opportunity to hone my piloting skills and really get to understand flying and how to explain it to PPLers. Plus if I ever get into a right hand seat then I'll have a good fall back. It's my opinion that all pilots, at any level, should keep a toe in GA flying.
In summary, go modular, aim/budget to add an FI rating and make plan A to spend some time teaching. If plan B turns out to be a twin jet type rating immediately after training then consider it a bonus.
On a more positive note, I'm glad in a way that circumstances have sent me down the FI route, as although the money is poor I'm getting a fantastic opportunity to hone my piloting skills and really get to understand flying and how to explain it to PPLers. Plus if I ever get into a right hand seat then I'll have a good fall back. It's my opinion that all pilots, at any level, should keep a toe in GA flying.
In summary, go modular, aim/budget to add an FI rating and make plan A to spend some time teaching. If plan B turns out to be a twin jet type rating immediately after training then consider it a bonus.
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I have no idea why I am bothering to write this, but here goes.
In the latest issue of BALPA's magazine, The log, there is a article on training, it quotes that out of 250 Oxford graduates this year ONLY 80 have got a job.
So do you feel lucky?
In the latest issue of BALPA's magazine, The log, there is a article on training, it quotes that out of 250 Oxford graduates this year ONLY 80 have got a job.
So do you feel lucky?
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Without wishing to cause offence - that degree is about as useful as two short planks.
ford cortina,
I've noticed a peculiar phenomenon in recent years - the harder I work, the luckier I seem to get!
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So you are prepared to take a 2 in 3 chance you will NOT get a job and then are prepared to blow £65,000.00+, of yours or someone else's money, ie: the Banks.
you could buy a new Porsche 911 for that and have some change left over.
As I said I am wasting my time trying to blah blah blah you are not listening are you
you really are half baked
you could buy a new Porsche 911 for that and have some change left over.
As I said I am wasting my time trying to blah blah blah you are not listening are you
you really are half baked
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It's not even a 2 in 3 chance because I'd say that quite a few of them 80 'employed' cadets are ones who've basically bought a job with Ryanair. They shouldn't really be included in the figures. Harsh, but true.
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Mr Cortina,
Why so conflictual?
It was a statement, not a plan for life, that's up to the individual!
The real halfbaked cookies can take their £65,000 and use it to supplement such dreams as they may have, it's their business really isn't it?
Decisions in all walks of life are best taken following the observations of others (mis)fortunes (experience?) and a careful analysis of such push and pull factors as may be relevant.
Many don't posses this patience and as a result end up pissing what they already have into the wind in pursuit of a balloon which will just slip further away from their grasp.
They engage gear before clutch.
Sound familiar?
Come on, let's keep it civil
Why so conflictual?
It was a statement, not a plan for life, that's up to the individual!
The real halfbaked cookies can take their £65,000 and use it to supplement such dreams as they may have, it's their business really isn't it?
Decisions in all walks of life are best taken following the observations of others (mis)fortunes (experience?) and a careful analysis of such push and pull factors as may be relevant.
Many don't posses this patience and as a result end up pissing what they already have into the wind in pursuit of a balloon which will just slip further away from their grasp.
They engage gear before clutch.
Sound familiar?
Come on, let's keep it civil