What age did you get your first flying job at?
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19-23, University Mech Engineering=very important inthe learning curve if you can afford to do it these days.
20yrs = First solo C152 but no money....................
35yrs B737 F/O
39yrs B737 Capt
20yrs = First solo C152 but no money....................
35yrs B737 F/O
39yrs B737 Capt
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On a more serious note!
With regard to the Uni. debate: Some airlines, in Europe, won't even look at you without University Degree, or without another language! Something to think about!
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PPL at 31, full time flying instructor at 37, air taxi at 39, Bandit F/O at 39, J41 F/O at 40, EMB145 at 41, 737 at 43.
First command at 46.
Late starter due to mid-life crisis, career change, all via the self improver route and didn't pay for a single type rating. Age don't matter.
I wouldn't change any of it, but I certainly would not want to be starting out now.
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First command at 46.
Late starter due to mid-life crisis, career change, all via the self improver route and didn't pay for a single type rating. Age don't matter.
I wouldn't change any of it, but I certainly would not want to be starting out now.
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In the Uk degrees just don't matter. The ATPL is your degree. When you train to do another profession you don't do a random degree first you just train for that job for heavens sake.
3-4 years at uni just puts you behind. I have had this debate so many times and over the years it is always the same. The only difference between people who went to uni and the others is that ex uni students are older and in more debt.
A degree is a tremendous accomplishment and something you should be proud of but I think a new guy coming into this industry should just concentrate on Flying and save his money. Remember you have to pay all the debt back one day!!!
Wanabees just go for it. You will never look back.
3-4 years at uni just puts you behind. I have had this debate so many times and over the years it is always the same. The only difference between people who went to uni and the others is that ex uni students are older and in more debt.
A degree is a tremendous accomplishment and something you should be proud of but I think a new guy coming into this industry should just concentrate on Flying and save his money. Remember you have to pay all the debt back one day!!!
Wanabees just go for it. You will never look back.
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17 Flying Scholarship C152
18 Captain of the Mighty Bulldog Tmk1
22 Captain of the Mighty Tucano
26 RAF Wings
27-38 2500 hrs Tornado
38 CPL IR
Actively looking for the next cockpit
18 Captain of the Mighty Bulldog Tmk1
22 Captain of the Mighty Tucano
26 RAF Wings
27-38 2500 hrs Tornado
38 CPL IR
Actively looking for the next cockpit
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17 RAF Flying Scolarship, PPL
19 Failed Basic Jet Training in the RAF
35 PPL (H)
38 CPL/IR
41 First flying job, 737 EFIS (still there now!)
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19 Failed Basic Jet Training in the RAF
35 PPL (H)
38 CPL/IR
41 First flying job, 737 EFIS (still there now!)
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Why do people with the degrees love so much to put them in front of anybody else,I have a degree aswell,but the only reason I needed it is to pay for my training...If degree is such an important requirement as many point out here,let's just change the CPL requirements to a 3 year bachelor's degree and stop arguing about it,for sake...My point:it doesn't matter if you have degree or not,if you want to fly fATPL is enough,I've seen people with degrees who were horrible pilots and people without who were truly professionals,so stop moaning about academical achievements,please.
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Why do people with the degrees love so much to put them in front of anybody else,I have a degree aswell,but the only reason I needed it is to pay for my training...If degree is such an important requirement as many point out here,let's just change the CPL requirements to a 3 year bachelor's degree and stop arguing about it,for sake...My point:it doesn't matter if you have degree or not,if you want to fly fATPL is enough,I've seen people with degrees who were horrible pilots and people without who were truly professionals,so stop moaning about academical achievements,please.
A degree doesn't determine the skill of the pilot, you are correct, but a degree does give you a lot of life experiences which you can carry into your career with you.
I'm not saying a degree is for everyone, because it's not. People should consider whether they have the interest and motivation to study for 3-4years because its not easy sometimes.
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19 -737-200
21-742-F (lucky b*stard me! - in all honestly felt bloody privileged. Classic cockpit. Sh1t autopilot. )
25-744
University of life me!
P.s Getting the 742-F was via the "who you know" method. Not bad for someone with 650 hrs on the 732.
NEVER STOP NETWORKING.
21-742-F (lucky b*stard me! - in all honestly felt bloody privileged. Classic cockpit. Sh1t autopilot. )
25-744
University of life me!
P.s Getting the 742-F was via the "who you know" method. Not bad for someone with 650 hrs on the 732.
NEVER STOP NETWORKING.
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with regard sto post 45 i think hes come from a wealthy background and done hour build on simulators etc,or he knows some top people but otherwise its impossible lol ,thts crazy 16 lol.isnt that imposssible.
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I was just saying (for info) that between 19-23 i was at university (with no money). For my own personel development it was great.
And i agree you dont need a degree to be an airline pilot! But always useful to fall back on during hard times and loss off medical etc.
Abagnale,
Dont know who you are, but with your attitude I hope never to have the misfortune to be rostered to fly with you. Get a life pal
Aerouk = Wise words. Thanks for your support.
And i agree you dont need a degree to be an airline pilot! But always useful to fall back on during hard times and loss off medical etc.
Abagnale,
Dont know who you are, but with your attitude I hope never to have the misfortune to be rostered to fly with you. Get a life pal
Aerouk = Wise words. Thanks for your support.
Last edited by LAX; 25th Apr 2009 at 01:04.