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of course they make money from wanabe. Why do you think they take guys with 0 hours, when this market is filled with pilots ready to fly.
Now what was I saying about know-it-alls?
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the aim of this first course is to produce high quality First Officers, trained from the outset to Flybe’s requirements, and able to move immediately into the right hand seat of the airline’s advanced Bombardier Dash 8 Q400 on completion of MPL training
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I am aware that during the course, if anything goes pear shaped then cadets are put onto the fATPL. That is good thinking.
However be aware of the very possible risk that if you do not get a job with Flybe, even after swimming, then you have a license that is worthless unless you have funds to convert it back to a fATPL.
Also be aware that until you get 1500 hrs, I suggest you pray to whoever it is you pray to that Flybe do not go under during the couple or so years it takes to get un-frozen. You will find it very difficult to get another job with an MPL under 1500 hours, let alone in this climate.
If I was a wannabe again, I would find the decision to do the Flybe MPL (providing I was successful during selection) very very difficult.
On one hand, you could do an fATPL with no guarantee of an airline job - yet have the license that allows you to apply for different pilot jobs.
Or do you go for the sponsorship where a job is "guaranteed" up to a point? Knowing that if Flybe have no place for you within 2? years, or you get made redundant before 1500 hrs, you have a worthless license?
I'm glad I don't have this decision to make.
However be aware of the very possible risk that if you do not get a job with Flybe, even after swimming, then you have a license that is worthless unless you have funds to convert it back to a fATPL.
Also be aware that until you get 1500 hrs, I suggest you pray to whoever it is you pray to that Flybe do not go under during the couple or so years it takes to get un-frozen. You will find it very difficult to get another job with an MPL under 1500 hours, let alone in this climate.
If I was a wannabe again, I would find the decision to do the Flybe MPL (providing I was successful during selection) very very difficult.
On one hand, you could do an fATPL with no guarantee of an airline job - yet have the license that allows you to apply for different pilot jobs.
Or do you go for the sponsorship where a job is "guaranteed" up to a point? Knowing that if Flybe have no place for you within 2? years, or you get made redundant before 1500 hrs, you have a worthless license?
I'm glad I don't have this decision to make.
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However be aware of the very possible risk that if you do not get a job with Flybe, even after swimming, then you have a license that is worthless unless you have funds to convert it back to a fATPL.
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with the oaa scheme they will pay the cost of the conversion if flybe tells you to bugger off
This licence will benefit someone, sadly I think it will only benefit the airline operator at the moment as the finer details continue to be hammered out.
Oddly enough there seems to be little interest from the big national carriers who still require a full ATPL prior to getting into the recruiting page on their websites.
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just a question,a bit off topic but; Quant,weren't you flying the A340-600,aged 21,like you posted on another forum?found a post you made regarding flight schools in April 09,where you say you want to start training in May 09?
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If that is true quant, not saying you are lying, the I agree with wobble. I'll also get a solicitor to read over it.
MPL to CPL/IR Guarantee: MPL is a brand new and highly innovative programme. Whilst we are fully confident that it represents the future route to commercial pilot training, we also wish to protect participants from any unforeseen risk in undertaking this first ever UK based scheme. In the very unlikely event that any problem does occur, OAA will guarantee to provide, at no cost to the selected students, any additional flight training required to convert to a standard CPL/IR licence. This will ensure that graduates will be eligible to join any airline with the same professional licensing qualification as available to our APPFO students.
i think he/she was joking on that thread. if you look at past posts he/she works for virgin in admin
just a question,a bit off topic but; Quant,weren't you flying the A340-600,aged 21,like you posted on another forum?found a post you made regarding flight schools in April 09,where you say you want to start training in May 09?
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fair enough,only a question!
now, on topic,I wouln't commit to this MPL license,specially with a £70k price tag with no "real" guarantees!fair enough if everything goes bananas they'll put you through fATPL course,but,who guarante that flybe will be "safe" untill you reach the 1500 h?not for me thank you
now, on topic,I wouln't commit to this MPL license,specially with a £70k price tag with no "real" guarantees!fair enough if everything goes bananas they'll put you through fATPL course,but,who guarante that flybe will be "safe" untill you reach the 1500 h?not for me thank you
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The following guarantees are in place:
MPL to CPL/IR Guarantee: MPL is a brand new and highly innovative programme. Whilst we are fully confident that it represents the future route to commercial pilot training, we also wish to protect participants from any unforeseen risk in undertaking this first ever UK based scheme. In the very unlikely event that any problem does occur, OAA will guarantee to provide, at no cost to the selected students, any additional flight training required to convert to a standard CPL/IR licence. This will ensure that graduates will be eligible to join any airline with the same professional licensing qualification as available to our APPFO students.
Airline Employment Guarantee: Any sponsored or mentored training programme involves a risk – albeit a very small one – that the participating airline might be unable, for reasons outside its control, to offer employment after graduation. For MPL graduates, there is an added potential complication because their licence is directly linked to employment by the airline involved. Under current regulations, it cannot readily be transferred to another airline. To guard against this slight risk, OAA will again guarantee to provide, at no cost to the selected student, any additional flight training required to convert to a standard CPL/IR licence. This will ensure that, in the event of such an occurrence, MPL graduates will be able to join any airline with the same professional licensing qualification as available to our APPFO students.
Of course you need to study the actual contract, but with up to 20k assistance towards the training and a sponsor airline I can't see any shortage of applicants.
MPL to CPL/IR Guarantee: MPL is a brand new and highly innovative programme. Whilst we are fully confident that it represents the future route to commercial pilot training, we also wish to protect participants from any unforeseen risk in undertaking this first ever UK based scheme. In the very unlikely event that any problem does occur, OAA will guarantee to provide, at no cost to the selected students, any additional flight training required to convert to a standard CPL/IR licence. This will ensure that graduates will be eligible to join any airline with the same professional licensing qualification as available to our APPFO students.
Airline Employment Guarantee: Any sponsored or mentored training programme involves a risk – albeit a very small one – that the participating airline might be unable, for reasons outside its control, to offer employment after graduation. For MPL graduates, there is an added potential complication because their licence is directly linked to employment by the airline involved. Under current regulations, it cannot readily be transferred to another airline. To guard against this slight risk, OAA will again guarantee to provide, at no cost to the selected student, any additional flight training required to convert to a standard CPL/IR licence. This will ensure that, in the event of such an occurrence, MPL graduates will be able to join any airline with the same professional licensing qualification as available to our APPFO students.
Of course you need to study the actual contract, but with up to 20k assistance towards the training and a sponsor airline I can't see any shortage of applicants.
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hi, are you saying you've been successful and got a place? if so congratulations
what day was your interview?
...Time to approach the bank, eek!
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So, is this a good idea? I'm sceptical about it.
I'd given up on ideas of integrated training and thought modular would be a better approach. But I must say that this does seem tempting, until you put a lot of thought into what could go wrong!
I suppose there's no harm in filling in an application...
I'd given up on ideas of integrated training and thought modular would be a better approach. But I must say that this does seem tempting, until you put a lot of thought into what could go wrong!
I suppose there's no harm in filling in an application...
